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Poll: Plurality of Dems think election was rigged, 42% give Clinton “good chance” of winning recount
Hotair ^ | 12/02/2016 | AllahPundit

Posted on 12/02/2016 12:25:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Don’t do drugs, guys. As good as they make you feel in the moment, they’ll only end up complicating your life.

I can actually understand the “rigged” claims, sort of, as an expression of pure butthurt denialism. It’s a very narrow plurality of Dems who say so — 36/35, with another 29 percent saying they’re not sure. Some people just can’t process that Her Majesty might have lost fair and square and they’re coping by retreating into fantasies of cheating.

This is harder to process, though.

hrc

Pity the many, many gullible Democrats who, having suffered one round of terrible heartbreak a few weeks ago, have now set themselves up for round two thanks to Jill Stein. The weird thing is, I’ll bet there’s heavy overlap between Dems who think the election was rigged and those who think the recount will show Hillary won. If the powers that be were willing to rig it the first time, why wouldn’t they rig the recount too?

This tweet, which is making the rounds tonight, won’t make things any better:

Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016.

Stein votes/Trump margin:
MI: 51,463/10,704
PA: 49,678/46,765
WI: 31,006/22,177

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) December 1, 2016

Liberals who are grasping for reasons to believe that Hillary was cheated somehow will do simple addition and subtraction there and conclude that she would have won if not for Stein’s presence in the race. But of course there’s no way of knowing that. Many of those Stein voters would have stayed home, so ardently opposed to Clinton were they; others might have voted for Gary Johnson, others might have written someone in, and others might have found another fringe left-wing party to vote for. Some would have voted for Clinton, but how many? The difference in Michigan is wide enough to raise an interesting question about how Hillary would have done there if not for Stein being in the race, but even then you’re left wondering: Would Trump have won the state anyway if we also removed Gary Johnson from the equation?

My warning not to do drugs isn’t aimed just at the left, though:

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Illegal voting by noncitizens does happen and in extremely close elections it can be decisive, with momentous consequences, but the evidence that it’s happening to the tune of “millions” of votes is thin enough that the idea shouldn’t be drawing 43 percent support — a strong plurality — among Republicans. When YouGov followed up on that and asked that 43 percent how many of them think Trump would have won the popular vote if not for illegal votes, fully 80 percent of those people said they think he would have. Put all of that together and you’ve got something like 34 percent of Republicans who think that enough illegal votes were cast for Clinton to erase a popular-vote lead of more than 2.5 million votes. That margin is greater than the population of 15 states. And unless you think nearly all illegal voters broke for Hillary, the total number of illegal votes that would have had to be cast to produce a margin of 2.5 million would need to be much greater than that. C’mon.

I guess butthurt denialism, whether over an electoral-college or popular-vote loss, comes in all stripes. In lieu of an exit question, look who retweeted me when I posted this YouGov data on Twitter earlier:

Interesting. https://t.co/4mio493zQY

— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) December 2, 2016

Yes, it’s that Neera Tanden. Just say no, Neera.

Update: I tweaked the headline to make clear that it’s 42 percent of Hillary voters, not 42 percent of Democrats, who think she has a good chance of winning the recount. Heavy overlap between those groups, of course, but not identical.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; 2016recount; clinton; democrats; hillary; jillstein; recount; trumptransition
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1 posted on 12/02/2016 12:25:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He give us a phone...he gonna do more!


2 posted on 12/02/2016 12:26:37 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, no path to 270 for Trump then.

Pathetic

These folks need medical attention


3 posted on 12/02/2016 12:27:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: SeekAndFind

D E L U S I O N A L. The low information voters think their democracy participation trophy is in the mail.


4 posted on 12/02/2016 12:28:18 PM PST by databoss
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats are insane.

Then again, they can’t handle defeat.

Like we want them running the country.


5 posted on 12/02/2016 12:28:31 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats plan to contest every election they don’t win. That’s how it’s going to be in the future.

This is George Soros’s idea, I believe. He sees our ballot system as a weakness, a vulnerability, an “attack surface,” in the age of big data and ubiquitous computing networks.


6 posted on 12/02/2016 12:30:29 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: SeekAndFind

42% of Democrats self-report as being literally out of their minds. Give them credit for their candor.


7 posted on 12/02/2016 12:30:46 PM PST by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

re: 42% change of winning recount

“Fat Chance”..... for fat female Hillary supporters.


8 posted on 12/02/2016 12:31:59 PM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would never accept her as President.


9 posted on 12/02/2016 12:33:05 PM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s the same 42% that say they’ve seen Elvis landing in a spaceship.


10 posted on 12/02/2016 12:35:32 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Dems...if hillary really is going to be prez, then why isn’t she trying to save jobs???


11 posted on 12/02/2016 12:41:16 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: SeekAndFind

save for later


12 posted on 12/02/2016 12:41:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: SeekAndFind

I firmly believe it was rigged too.

In HilLIARy clinton’s favor... they just didn’t do enough to overcome his 85% to her 15% support.

If they are going to recount, then I want a recount of EVERYPLACE and all the voter fraud discovered. There is a news story today where nearly 10,000 dead people had absenty ballots returned in Nevada.


13 posted on 12/02/2016 12:42:19 PM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: SeekAndFind
42% of Democrats are having their brains infested by maggots? No wonder they want to keep Obamacare.

Brain of a Democrat
14 posted on 12/02/2016 12:42:53 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They really need to find a message and stick to it....Comey sunk her chances, the election was rigged, the media didn't treat her fairly. How about this one; SHE'S A CRIMINAL.
15 posted on 12/02/2016 12:47:58 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The fact that the Green Party has disowned Jill Stein only shows the massive coordination going on between her, the DNC, the Clinton camp, the media, the DC establishment, etc to try to overturn this election. Wikileaks has already proved these corrupt collaborations happen.

The corrupt media is a big part of why this is continuing to happen. I hope Trump, once in office, exposes them all (but that is probably the fear driving the left’s desperation these days).

CGato


16 posted on 12/02/2016 12:49:26 PM PST by Conservative Gato
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To: DoughtyOne

We need a lot of strait jackets.


17 posted on 12/02/2016 12:49:41 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: SeekAndFind

42 percent think she has a good chance to win the recount? They are as delusional after the election as they were before.


18 posted on 12/02/2016 12:53:08 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Steely Tom

We need to put an end to candidate requested recounts. Recounts should be triggered by the numbers only. This will only get worse going forward.


19 posted on 12/02/2016 12:53:19 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: max americana

Yes, putting American back to work already!


20 posted on 12/02/2016 12:56:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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