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Despite successful fundraising effort, recount of Pennsylvania remains unlikely
Philly.com ^ | 11.28/2016 | Rob Tornoe

Posted on 11/28/2016 7:07:06 AM PST by dirtboy

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PA is the firewall, as Stein will have to put up proof of fraud that she admits she does not have.
1 posted on 11/28/2016 7:07:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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Unlike Wisconsin, in Penn one must have a legitimate reason for a recount....She does not.


2 posted on 11/28/2016 7:08:44 AM PST by traderrob6
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They need full disclosure of who is making these donations.


3 posted on 11/28/2016 7:11:28 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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So.... then she gets to keep the money ?


4 posted on 11/28/2016 7:12:01 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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So what is this business with the stat guys?

They are saying the districts with voting machines voted differently than the districts with paper ballots?

I really dont understand the theory they put forth.


5 posted on 11/28/2016 7:13:16 AM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Unlike Wisconsin, in Penn one must have a legitimate reason for a recount....She does not.

Well, Trump himself said over the weekend there was rampant voter fraud in this election. How about that reason?

Playing devil's advocate for the DEMs ...

6 posted on 11/28/2016 7:13:26 AM PST by CatOwner
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Without PA, a recount in WI is theater.

Hillary never had a path to the WH without PA.

Overturning a 68,000 Trump vote lead there is akin to winning the lottery.


7 posted on 11/28/2016 7:15:02 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Pretty much.


8 posted on 11/28/2016 7:15:26 AM PST by traderrob6
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Through chicanery, they might be able to “find” 10,704 needed votes in Flint or Detroit, swinging Michigan; a lot less likely that they might be able to swing 22,000 votes in Wisconsin. But its an infinitessimal chance that they can steal 70,658 votes in Pennsylvania; for one thing, there are virtually no adults who didn’t vote in Philadelphia and an intense review might reveal just how much fraud was committed in that city, where Hillary got 81 percent of the votes.


9 posted on 11/28/2016 7:15:44 AM PST by laconic
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She will get nowhere in all three. The push-back has begun.


10 posted on 11/28/2016 7:16:00 AM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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I don’t expect they’ll be getting any help from Tom Wolf. Wolfie boy has been quaking in his boots ever since the red rural voters in his state stood-up and made themselves heard. He is in self-preservation mode. Not going near this with a 30 foot pole IMHO.


11 posted on 11/28/2016 7:17:15 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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PA is the firewall, as Stein will have to put up proof of fraud that she admits she does not have.

Proof is in the eye of the beholder. And, it's conjectural--only the recount can provide proof.

So, prepare for a spate of fairy-tale legal briefs and behind the scenes judge shopping. And, if that doesn't succeed (as it shouldn't) for a spate of Dem wailing about the inherent unfairness of the Electoral College, and how we need a uniform, national form of democracy, meaning a National Popular Vote for national office.

12 posted on 11/28/2016 7:17:41 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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“Well, Trump himself said over the weekend there was rampant voter fraud in this election. How about that reason?”

Need more than the naked accusation.


13 posted on 11/28/2016 7:18:20 AM PST by traderrob6
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So.... then she gets to keep the money ?

Gee, isn't it amazing that, in a few short days, she raised more money for the recount than she probably did for her entire campaign?

14 posted on 11/28/2016 7:18:58 AM PST by GreenHornet
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If dems are in contact with actual votes, I’m nervous.


15 posted on 11/28/2016 7:19:54 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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Saying something is not the same as proving it.


16 posted on 11/28/2016 7:20:13 AM PST by djpg
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praying for God to continue to strengthen people of our country to do what is right by Him and our laws and expose those doing the opposite.


17 posted on 11/28/2016 7:20:16 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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Saying is one thing. Proving a prima facia level case that fraud occurred is another, and prima facia is the evidentiary standard in this situation.


18 posted on 11/28/2016 7:20:20 AM PST by dirtboy
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She is asking for voters in Pa to sign and notarized affidavit saying there was fraud and the fraud is based on the findings of J. Alex Halderman. He is one of the compete scientists who was urging the Clintons to do a recount.

He does not have any proof of fraud only the polls and the news stories and also the results that showed Trump won because he says Trump could not have one. Here is the affadavit that she is asking to be filled out she wants 3 voters from each preceinct:

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/a8854aa8286e235a9e6a58f2b/files/Smaller_PA_DRE_Petition_Halderman_Aff._Exhibits_1_.pdf

Read the whole paper affadvit and you will what they are asking for on the full recount including getting their hands on the machines.

If they failed to cheat enough the first time I beleive they will be able to do it now. They are asking for it not to prove fraud but to change the elections results in Clintons favor.


19 posted on 11/28/2016 7:20:22 AM PST by funfan
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Has it occurred to the Democrats that in demanding a delayed recount that they may wind up DISENFRANCHISING voters in all the states where the recount can’t be completed in time and the electoral votes may not count?????? I realize Trump and Pence will still take office, thank God.


20 posted on 11/28/2016 7:21:09 AM PST by finnsheep
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