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Let California Go
American Thinker ^ | November 27, 2016 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 11/27/2016 6:55:28 AM PST by Kaslin

When people speak of Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote, they are really speaking about California. In that state, Hillary Clinton won 6,621,346 votes to Donald Trump's 3,549,576 as of this writing. This margin of over three million votes alone accounts for any claim that Clinton exceeded Trump in popular support.

Consider some numbers. In New York, Trump won 37.5% of the vote; in New Jersey, Trump won over 40%; and in Illinois, Trump won 39.4%. Among sizably populated states that lean "overwhelmingly" Democrat, California is in a class by itself. Trump struggled to get even a third of Californian votes.

Moreover, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois differ markedly from California because their tilt toward the Democrats happens on a very different landscape. New York and Illinois are pushed into deep blue territory by singular metro areas (NYC and Chicago), which overpower small-town areas ("upstate" or "downstate") where Republicans gather in strong numbers. New Jersey is wedged between the Democratic machine cities of Philadelphia and New York City and has a smattering of medium-sized urban centers with large black populations.

Only in California does one find a vast state with a huge population (nearly 40 million people) with multiple sprawling metro areas that all lean strongly Democratic or, at best (in the case of San Diego), just libertarian enough to be less than completely left wing. The San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Palm Springs, Long Beach, etc. stretch across miles and miles of a complex and diverse landscape, hosting a stunning multiplicity of races and ethnicities. Yet everywhere you go in the state, you seem to find Democrats or Republicans who just don't strike you as all that conservative.

California is a different country.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2016; calexit; california; hillaryrottenclinton; illegals; morons; newcalifornia; secession; timdraper; voterfraud
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To: WMarshal

You wish, cupcake.


121 posted on 11/27/2016 9:44:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: txrefugee

I heard the same thing in OR, WA, Colo, and Texas. CAlifornians truly believe they are entitled. They own you because you are not a Californian. And with that come the capacity to see us a underlings so they can take our clear and wondrously blue skies and besmirch those same cloudless, pristine areas with their inane BS. including deactivation of our gun laws.


122 posted on 11/27/2016 9:45:00 AM PST by Bodega (elective, therapeutic abortion sequelae)
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To: Bodega

Also couldn’t Helllary & crowd sticking her nose into this be one final shake down over her donor & “true believer” money tree before she rides off into the sunset?


123 posted on 11/27/2016 9:49:06 AM PST by Reily
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To: Kaslin

I can’t remember I enjoyed reading a post as much as this one.

Thanks for putting it out there for us!


124 posted on 11/27/2016 9:54:58 AM PST by Dana1960
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To: WMarshal

“During a text argument about the electoral college that I had with my commie brother who lives in CA last night: “Let me tell you, if California’s ends up dying of thirst and you end up asking me for help, I’ll FedEx you my piss.”

I meant it. If California tries to secede then I believe that it will end in civil war.”

Hopefully, you have stopped communicating with the commie brother forever. Sounds like he ain’t worth it.

CA won’t secede, logistically and legally the state wont be able to do it.

Even the California Constitution says the following “... “The State of California is an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land.”


125 posted on 11/27/2016 10:32:15 AM PST by ConsCA
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To: sheana

And they don’t even try to assimilate.


126 posted on 11/27/2016 10:34:07 AM PST by stillfree? (My My My)
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To: Regulator

Best post of the thread.


127 posted on 11/27/2016 10:41:49 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Kaslin

With the original declining in importance, the Americas need another Cuba.

Shall we have a California embargo?


128 posted on 11/27/2016 10:46:34 AM PST by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: Rumplemeyer
Defund the “sanctuary cities” and watch California turn around. Fast.

See those ants in your kitchen? Remove the leaky box of sugar from your cabinet, and watch the trickle of pests dwindle and disappear.

129 posted on 11/27/2016 10:48:30 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Kaslin

Trump: We’re going to need a longer wall.


130 posted on 11/27/2016 10:50:43 AM PST by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: Kaslin
The huge Clinton lead in California is based entirely on ethnic voting.

In 2012, California white voters supported Romney over Obama by 53% to 45%.

80% of non-white voters supported Obama.

Also, allegations of massive voter fraud in California are absurd.

What would be the motive?

The governor is a Democrat, both U.S. Senators are Democrats, both houses of the state legislature have huge Democrat majorities, all the big city mayors are Democrats, and the U.S. Congressional delegation is 80% Democrat.

131 posted on 11/27/2016 10:57:12 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: vooch
[...] you also realize that having dual citizenship doesn’t prevent Americans from getting the highest security clearance? [...] but it turned out there were so many dual nationals working in the Bush WH, the idea was quietly shelved. I suspect in the Obama WH it was even worse. crazy but true.

More water to my mill!

I find dual citizenship abhorrent - and if CA were to secede, it would be all the more necessary to repeal / rescind it.

Regards,

132 posted on 11/27/2016 10:57:30 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I agree on your dual citizenship approach

but that is distinct from the YES California question


133 posted on 11/27/2016 11:01:17 AM PST by vooch
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To: foreverfree
I vacationed in CA, as an (almost) 20yo who'd cast his first Presidential vote (for the Gipper) the year before, in the summer of '81 with my mom and stepdad. She and I flew from Philly to Phoenix where he'd gone to in advance on business. After 2 nights in Scottsdale came a night at a Motel 6 in Yuma, 2 nights in SD that included the Zoo and a literal Tijuana taxi ride. Then, after a stop at San Juan Capistrano on the way up the 5 came three nights at my stepdad's lawyer nephew's condo in Santa Monica (3 blocks from the beach). We did Universal City and Disneyland. Then it was one night in Morro Bay, a drive up Route 1 to Carmel and a night there, and then 4 nights at the Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf before flying home.

Two questions:

1. Have you always kept such a detailed daily journal?

2. What color was the carpeting in that Motel 6 room?

Regards,

134 posted on 11/27/2016 11:04:38 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Sometimes, your first trip to a special place is recalled decades later in almost photographic detail. I can do the same for my first trip to California, or to Ireland.


135 posted on 11/27/2016 11:06:02 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: vooch
I agree on your dual citizenship approach but that is distinct from the YES California question

No, for me those two questions would be inextricably linked.

I could perhaps warm to the secession of CA (not really, but for the sake of argument) - but only if dual citizenship were rescinded and single citzenship stringently enforced.

Regards,

136 posted on 11/27/2016 11:07:49 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Kaslin

Please let them go...If we created a new state - Jefferson or Sequoia... I bet it would be a red state...


137 posted on 11/27/2016 11:18:32 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: ASA Vet

Vetting? Funny guy. Clean your own house first.


138 posted on 11/27/2016 11:19:06 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Kaslin

Let California go? and Oregon and Washington should they follow suit?

Have we forgot the Navy bases on the west coast that we will lose? San Diego, Long Beach, Bremerton, NAS Whitbey Island. The Pacific is a big ocean. The Pacific and Atlantic have always been our first line of defense.

Pearl Harbor would be the only base we’d have.


139 posted on 11/27/2016 11:23:31 AM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas

Not to mention the Marine Corp bases in Calif., San Diego, Miramar, Camp Pendelton, Twenty Nine Palms.


140 posted on 11/27/2016 11:31:58 AM PST by sasportas
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