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Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’
The UK Guardian via MSN ^ | Nov. 23, 2016 | Oliver Milman, The UK Guardian

Posted on 11/23/2016 9:06:27 PM PST by Innovative

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

Related: 2016 locked into being hottest year on record, Nasa says

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; government; nasa; trump; trumpstillwinning; trumpwinsagain; winning
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To: tumblindice

He’s not quite of THAT degree of capability, although making a mythical legend out of him is tempting. Might this become like the tales told of the fighting power of Chuck Norris?


101 posted on 11/23/2016 10:56:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: reaganaut

I can say that at one time as a softball assignment in an elective in college, I B.S.’ed a philosophy in which all that exists was an idea in the mind of God — kind of like Christian Science, come to think of it.

So according to this theory, the moon landings would be some kind of illusion of making measurements in another illusion. Heady stuff. Pass the pot, man, is Colorado an illusion too?


102 posted on 11/23/2016 11:00:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: reaganaut

Just an aside: I wonder how moon landing skeptics explain the retroreflectors on the moon that seem to offer proof of earthlings having been there.


103 posted on 11/23/2016 11:05:25 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Windflier
Damn, I’m lovin our new president. Yes!

But he's not a conserrrrrvative...

104 posted on 11/23/2016 11:10:35 PM PST by gogeo (That's my Trumpy!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yes, NACA’s research and development function was rolled into NASA, but it served a different purpose. NACA continued the basic research the Wright brothers did in developing the aircraft in a way that avoided the costly and counterproductive fight over patent rights.

Constitutionally, that may be a bit more dubious, as much of that research could have been carried out by airplane manufacturers themselves. However, in the grand scheme of things NACA and NASA are constitutional misdemeanors, not worth quibbling over when you have the wholesale prostitution of the general welfare and commerce clauses used to create constitutional abominations like the EPA, Education, HUD and Agriculture.

NACA was not and NASA is not a regulatory agency creating unconstitutional laws. Both could easily be funded as defense department efforts, and keeping the management separate is(was) in the national interest even if not strictly authorized by the constitution, unlike most of the rest of the alphabet soup agencies whose creation was and remains a direct attack on the nature of our government as defined by the constitution.


105 posted on 11/23/2016 11:16:42 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Innovative

This is very good news and I hope it includes GISS as well as NASA.


106 posted on 11/23/2016 11:24:17 PM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: Vision Thing

Ursula k legion “The Left Hand of Darkness” and the Ansible.... a concept of cutting edge physics at the time... Not as cutting edge now as it was then... Probably doable.

here is the crux: for entangled particles, the act of measuring one particle doesn’t just change the state that particle is in, but also changes the state of the other particle. If the first particle’s spin was measured, and found to be up, the second particle’s spin would then change from being indefinite to being down. What is especially striking is that, according to quantum mechanics, the particles have this influence on each other however far apart they are, even if they are on opposite sides of the universe. Since the 1980s, experiments have been performed demonstrating this phenomenon, with more recent experiments showing that the influence is taking place at least at 10,000 times the speed of


107 posted on 11/23/2016 11:47:09 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres T)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You are absolutely correct - on both counts and thank you for the reminder on Proverbs.


108 posted on 11/23/2016 11:48:42 PM PST by reaganaut (I'm looking forward to Trump as President. I'm an Evangelical and I vote.)
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To: Innovative

Yes; most excellent!


109 posted on 11/23/2016 11:50:10 PM PST by Boomer ( On Jan. 20th we can party like WE HAVE a tomorrow!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL. I love it but I hope CO isn’t an illusion - beautiful, if liberal state.

I will now sing myself to sleep to Rocky Mountain High. Thank HiT


110 posted on 11/23/2016 11:51:37 PM PST by reaganaut (I'm looking forward to Trump as President. I'm an Evangelical and I vote.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Earth is the only habitable planet in the universe."

Wow! With all the possible livable planets out there; this is really what you think?

Your tagline is correct but I think you were merely speaking of yourself if you truly believe this.

111 posted on 11/23/2016 11:57:28 PM PST by Boomer ( On Jan. 20th we can party like WE HAVE a tomorrow!)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

http://www.isciencemag.co.uk/features/superluminal-communication-were-talking-faster-than-light/

That was from a light communications article


112 posted on 11/23/2016 11:57:34 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres T)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just Boulder.


113 posted on 11/23/2016 11:59:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Boomer

We wouldn’t be able to prove it from the bible — however the idea of there being as many habitable worlds as envisioned in Star Wars seems unlikely from the odds of chance. Old-earth creationism is firmly on board that one... see, for example, http://www.reasons.org .

If there is a habitable exoplanet, the Lord would have miraculously planned it, too.


114 posted on 11/24/2016 12:06:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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The true scientists (alt-mathematicians) throughout the ages were politically incorrect.


115 posted on 11/24/2016 12:11:24 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Innovative

How the hell does “clear cutting forests” release heat-trapping gases?

I can see a “claim” that burning fossil fuels releases “gases” that may trap heat in the atmosphere, but cutting down a tree doesn’t release anything. All it does, as does a dying tree, is to stop producing oxygen and taking in carbon dioxide.

Now burning trees like the natives do in the Amazon to clear land for farming does release gases and particulate matter but is any EPA or NASA official going down to the Jivaro Indian and threaten them with jail and fines for doing so.

If so, they’d better learn how to grow a new head.

Now, the article was written by the far-left British newspaper The Guardian and apparently by MSN (or just carried by MSN), so the far-left environmental wacko bias was already built in to it.

Writing “voodoo science” and inaccurate science is no way to publish a newspaper, unless you are a British Marxist rag.


116 posted on 11/24/2016 12:11:44 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bigbob

Great answer!! If the world’s gonna end because of it, SURELY 100 billion should be nothing to the EU or China r Japan or whomever.

Let them take care of it.

It’s been unseasonably cool here in the northeast.

Start at nighttime in early november.

But I forget, it’s climate CHANGE, not warming.

Because the earth’s climate never changed before. Or something.


117 posted on 11/24/2016 12:14:40 AM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Innovative

This will make that Obama clone running ( perhaps that should be in parenthesis ) Canada even more nervous. Trump is living up to his name Trump.


118 posted on 11/24/2016 12:16:26 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: dp0622

It is supposedly human-provoked catastrophic climate change.

But this isn’t the world’s first rodeo with carbon dioxide in far more abundance than now, which somehow failed yet to result in the world swooning in heat.


119 posted on 11/24/2016 12:17:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There was a lot more once?


120 posted on 11/24/2016 12:18:30 AM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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