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Liberals’ California dream of secession will end up a nightmare
Red Alert Politics ^ | 11-232-2016 | Ryan Girdusky

Posted on 11/23/2016 9:02:20 PM PST by Kevin in California

While Democrats nationwide are licking their wounds and trying to regroup, California liberals are pissed and want nothing to do with the rest of the country.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; election
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To: Kevin in California

I am so ashamed of the idiotic voters in my state.

52% voted for the plastic bag ban.

I bet if they said it would save the environment they would vote to tax our food.

Liberals are so stupid. They’re having this knee jerk virtue signaling BS reaction, making a statement about Trump.

I don’t believe any of them have truly thought it out.

Do they understand they will lose all federal funding and protections? I doubt it. But then why should the whole country help finance the stupidity of our state government to begin with?

Who is going to pay for all of the criminal invaders? I suppose they’ll have to tax the citizens very heavily to make up for the loss of federal funding. Even if the state would be keeping what would be federal taxes it would never be enough.

No more subsidies for “green” energy, public transport, highways, I could go on and on.

Decent people will probably want to leave the state before this happens. They will build and patrol walls to keep us in and paying our taxes.

They either haven’t thought about it or the people who want this are so rich they don’t care. They can lock their gates and roll up the windows on their limos and grind their boots on the necks of the working class even harder.


41 posted on 11/23/2016 10:05:13 PM PST by Califreak (All Alinsky All The Time)
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To: umgud

They are constitutionally unable to think that through the way a rational person would. They can only think of attaining the control and proclaiming Utopia with the apparent power to implement that. What comes after can only be perfection because that is the imagined world of the leftist anywhere on the spectrum. History means nothing because that all pertains to other people who were not perfect in their intentions and ideas as the modern liberals are.


42 posted on 11/23/2016 10:07:51 PM PST by arthurus
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To: umgud
> There are enough lib dems to push this thru giving them an independent progressive socialist utopia. But I’m gonna guess they haven’t thought thru all the unintended consequences.

Do they ever? Never. I don't know if it's drugs, indoctrination, social media, mind control, but the new liberals are the most rude, arrogant, sociopathic, easily-led, guillible, ungodly, spineless, immoral, unreasonable, illogical, irresponsible creatures I've ever seen and they claim to be the most educated. Most educated at what is what I'm wondering because they don't have a lick of common sense or wisdom. None at all. And when I look at their profiles most are from wealth and travel extensively and of course attended prestigious universities. Go figure.

43 posted on 11/23/2016 10:08:35 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Lisbon1940

It will be somewhat like after the first Civil War, the losing side would be impoverished. I would carpet bag the Sh•t out of California.


44 posted on 11/23/2016 10:12:25 PM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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To: ari-freedom
It’s a big state. Lots of liberals live there but so do lots of conservatives. They don’t vanish simply because of all the lefties.

But their votes do. California conservatives might as well be on the moon for all the electoral impact they have. California is a hopeless case--now is the time for the sane to abandon California and shore up purple states.

45 posted on 11/23/2016 10:16:41 PM PST by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: Nothingburger
Perhaps a state version of the electoral college is in order, to prevent the dense urban counties from controlling the destiny of the rest. I know that would drastically change California.

From NY FReeper comments, I suspect it would work in that state as well, to neuter the sewer of NYC.

46 posted on 11/23/2016 10:20:22 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Kevin in California

Its funny when unemployed students march to secede from the union, forgetting that there are millions of workers here in California who own property that have no intentions of seceding.


47 posted on 11/23/2016 10:26:02 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: ChildOfThe60s; All

Smart move Einstein. The guy who owns and runs this site lives in California.


48 posted on 11/23/2016 10:28:37 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Nothingburger
Red can be found in Brooklyn. The Jewish areas
49 posted on 11/23/2016 10:46:08 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: Kevin in California

They get about hAlf of their water in southern cal from the Colorado river. Cut that off if they leave.


50 posted on 11/23/2016 10:50:17 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ari-freedom

Thanks for that map. Illuminating.


51 posted on 11/23/2016 10:53:36 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: JamesP81

(Said with tongue in cheek) a few sticks of trinitrotoluene strategically placed along the San Andreas fault line will take care of the secessionists quickly, and, very finally. (GRIN)


52 posted on 11/23/2016 11:07:04 PM PST by egfowler3 (What was it I was going to say here anyway?? Anyone care to remind me?)
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To: CriticalJ

“I am not opposed to CA leaving.”

Just think of all those votes not screwing up our elections!


53 posted on 11/23/2016 11:13:22 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Kevin in California

I noted this before, but I shall repeat: The Left is PLAYING WITH FIRE here. Sure, there are millions that want to see California become a separate country, but what they don’t seem to realize is that there are HUGE NUMBERS of Americans that would be VERY HAPPY to see their two left-wing Senators, their very-strongly Democrat US House delegation, and their huge number of Electoral College voters simply ‘disappear’ into some kind of Socialist ‘paradise’.

So HAVE AT IT, California...we in the REAL AMERICA will do whatever is needed to support your efforts.


54 posted on 11/23/2016 11:14:18 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: from occupied ga

AND an enormous amount of their electriciy from the Hoover Dam and Texas.


55 posted on 11/23/2016 11:20:50 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen (ELITE IMMUNITY: how the puppetmasters / puppets continue to function)
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To: WMarshal

Ry Cooder, Do Re Mi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLTFk6CTAEs


56 posted on 11/23/2016 11:20:53 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: ModelBreaker

“Last time I checked, they get back less than they pay in taxes. Seceding would make that even better because the federal bureaucracy wouldn’t get its cut.”

Have you ever heard the saying: “Figures don’t lye but liars figure”?

The “California gets back less than it gives” is a prime example of that. The people saying it don’t include welfare benefits such as food stamps in those totals. Also remove the money generated from various military bases and the figure changes. California is actually one of the states most dependent upon the Feds. ESPECIALLY the coastal areas that want to secede. Split the state North to South at the edge of the mountains and the Western coastal areas receive huge subsidies.

California also depends on other states to produce electricity and provide them with water.

Where they might make some of that back is by gaining control of the lands administered by the Federal government that cannot currently be taxed


57 posted on 11/23/2016 11:56:05 PM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: ModelBreaker

The problem here is that misery (certainly lefty misery) craves company.

California being lefty all by its solo self? There’s no fun in that. None at all! Gotta drag the whole rest of the country into it, kicking and screaming! (Which won’t happen now that Trump roolz.)

California lefties, denied all their former Federal tentacles by a yuge Trumpian swamp-draining that will depend on California about as much as his own election did, will mope... but they will be powerless.


58 posted on 11/23/2016 11:57:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fai Mao

True dat.

Which will make the effect of the Trumpian swamp-draining on California that much sweeter.


59 posted on 11/24/2016 12:00:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kevin in California

California can go if it wants to... it’s already a cancer on the rest of the country which should be cut out of the USA.


60 posted on 11/24/2016 12:09:35 AM PST by Republican1795.
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