Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Update: Voting, Demographic Info, Rumor Denials
self | 9/12/2016 | LS

Posted on 11/12/2016 6:45:24 AM PST by LS

Some of this info is posted in responses to various queries on a bunch of threads, so I thought I would consolidate what we know so far. Some of this is from inside pollster info via People's Pundit Daily, some is from recently released states, some is direct from Team Trump:

*Both in MN and nationally, my pollster tells me that the late breaking vote was entirely toward Trump. He would have won MN outright if not for “early vote,” because he won on election day there by 2:1. (That’s MINNESOTA!)

*Trump won six or so states by under 150,000 votes. Kinda like Obama in 2012.

*Latest info is Trump took 35%+ Hispanics in FL, large numbers of Cubans, and more than 30% Hispanics nationally. That is huge.

*Cankles down more than 6 m off Obama (which I predicted). I did not expect Trump’s vote levels to be so low. The press is blaming (rightly so) the media and pollsters for lying, but this is a dilemma: if they told the truth about her problems, it “might” have inspired a few more Ds to vote for her, but also would have turned off millions more “undecided.”

*Trump at Romney levels (I had him 4% higher, but he was ahead of Romney in 7-8 key states. Behind in AZ, CO, UT, and so on). There was no monster vote. This is very good news. It means in four years, if Trump can bring home—through his policies—probably 4-5 million “normal” Republican voters he will be unbeatable.

*Trump won evangelicals pretty big (seeing more than 60%)

*He won about 40% of AZ Hispanics, about 30% nationally and over 35% in FL. Still looking at black #s but more than Romney and possibly 15%, a post Hoover high.

*Johnson hurt Trump in CO, AZ, and almost everywhere immediately after the tape. We found in Dayton, OH, for ex., that absentees dated right after the tape showed a big shift from Rs to Johnson, but returned over time.

*Cuyahoga, Co., OH, as I predicted last July, made it impossible for Cankles to win OH. It was down 70,000 and Dems need 125,000-175,000 advantage coming out of Cuyahoga to win.

*Trump won Montgomery Co OH (first time in 20 years) and Trumbull Co. OH, which Obama won by 20, which hasn’t gone R since Eisenhower.

*DO NOT believe any rumors of “appointments” or cabinet people until announced by Team Trump. For ex., I spoke with Team Trump on reports of Kelly Ayotte as Sec Def: “No Way!”


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: administration; election; hillary; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last
To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Trump needs to ‘Executive Order’ voter ID for the whole country.


61 posted on 11/12/2016 9:29:41 AM PST by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: LS
Excellent reports, analysis, and fascinating hard demo info that satisfies my curiosity as to the degree of MSM projections (aka wishful thinking and lies.)

Your OH projection was spot on. +100

62 posted on 11/12/2016 9:33:42 AM PST by HangUpNow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: libertarian27

Fed. ID with purple finger.


63 posted on 11/12/2016 9:41:28 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Democrat_media
Democrats will have us totally outnumbered and with voter fraud in 4 years will be unstoppable....(UNLESS...[We somehow] Repeal the 1965 immigration act... 2. national voter id to cut democrat voter fraud which is the millions of votes)

You're absolutely spot on all over the place.

Resolving those New World Order policy-holes that sabotaged our national demo (and Constitution) are essential to stopping the hemorrhaging of a sane pro-America vote that would inevitably lead to a dead Republic and a Permanent Hurt.

'Permanent Hurt', John Haitt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYd9uSMVEU

64 posted on 11/12/2016 9:42:28 AM PST by HangUpNow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Democrat_media; LS
I know that you guys know this, but it seems by the replies on this thread that some are not aware that the Feds in DC have very little control over how the States run elections. The Constitution gives that power to the States, for very good reason, and the good folks in DC can pound sand for all the good the suggestions on this thread are. No one in DC can stop same day registration and voting in New Hampshire, but it's a cottage industry and results in nearly 100,000 votes on election according to former Senator Scott Brown on Fox Business. Likewise, no one in DC can stop NY/FLA voting. The only ones to stop that is governors and state legislators. They won't because it serves their purposes.

So don't expect Trump to right all wrongs. In this case, and others, it's simply not in his power.

65 posted on 11/12/2016 9:45:34 AM PST by Wingy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: libertarian27

Nice image. Really puts it in perspective.


66 posted on 11/12/2016 9:47:43 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LS

So many sites speculating about Trump’s list for hires/appointees - I don’t believe anything until it comes directly from his people!


67 posted on 11/12/2016 9:50:59 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS
He won about 40% of AZ Hispanics, about 30% nationally and over 35% in FL.

Interesting numbers. That AZ number is really impressive.

68 posted on 11/12/2016 9:55:46 AM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mouse1
Not bad...for an independent who had zero help from the Republican party. Can you imagine if more would have campaigned and supported him.

I think the lack of support from the party establishment helped him.

69 posted on 11/12/2016 10:00:44 AM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: LS

Good info. Thanks!


70 posted on 11/12/2016 10:03:34 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wingy

Elections in which federal candidates are running SHOULD be regulated by the fed gov.

I am a huge supporter of the 10th amendment but when state machinery is corrupt, and US conngress/senate/president candidates are running, the fedgov sure as s*** should regulate it.


71 posted on 11/12/2016 10:27:53 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Wingy

Correct.


72 posted on 11/12/2016 10:49:58 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: HangUpNow

Actually my OH projection was bad. I had Trump +4-5.

It was +9.


73 posted on 11/12/2016 10:50:36 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The total estimate in FL (again, no one knows) is 95,000 fraud. Assume this is 50% correct, and the real number is 50,000. A lot of votes, but Trump won FL, even with this.

As for NYC, no one cares. This isn’t going to change or shape anything in 20 years.


74 posted on 11/12/2016 10:51:56 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: LS

Where did you get the 95K or 50K fraud estimates?

If their polling had not been so skewed, they would have been working a lot harder.

While it is impossible to eliminate all attempts at voter fraud, cleaning the voter rolls would be a huge step towards that goal.


75 posted on 11/12/2016 11:25:45 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: wastoute
Remember. The precincts don’t even count the absentee ballots unless there could be enough to change the outcome. Nobody knows how many Trump votes weren’t even counted.

This is simply not true. One reputable website had an article claiming this was true, but it is not. Other thread on FR have talked about this, apparently its an urban legend.

76 posted on 11/12/2016 11:42:53 AM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Democrat_media

Add to that some sort of standards on voting machines. Anything that is all-electronic with no paper record is ripe for fraud on a massive scale.


77 posted on 11/12/2016 1:25:51 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BDParrish

It did, but not deliberately.

What happened was that I was discussing polling with Team Trump earlier that week and they were just freakin’ surging. We had them down just a point in MN (very accurate) up in MI, up in NH, within a point in RI and CT and tied in NM and down just one or two in OR.

In short, Trump had so much momentum Cankles thought they had to release the tape early to blunt this or they’d never catch up. So they were damned if ya do, damned if ya don’t.


78 posted on 11/12/2016 4:51:47 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Blennos

Thanks for your reply Blennos! I know that it really is too early to start worrying. I will promise to be positive and thankful for this result until the RINOs in the Senate give me reason otherwise.

I was thinking specifically of the RINO disloyalty in the Senate as Trump attempts to pass the conservative agenda. Obviously if we have 50 conservative votes, then the Vice President will carry the day as you observe, and I stand corrected.

A Republican majority is not the same as a conservative majority. A 52 seat Republican majority might not do the trick since so many GOP senators are RINO. I hope some Democrat senators will go with us against them. Do you think that is possible and on which issues? If you take a look at the 2018 election, I would appreciate your thoughts, and wonder if you think there is any chance of getting 50 conservatives?

I appreciated your thought about “ways to get around” the filibuster. You remind me of the influence that Mike Pence could have in that chamber.


79 posted on 11/12/2016 5:58:13 PM PST by BDParrish (O God, please bless America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: HangUpNow

Thanks . Help get the message out to Trump on his web site he’s got a huge button “give us your ideas”

https://www.greatagain.gov/


80 posted on 11/13/2016 6:41:19 AM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson