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The truth about those rising health insurance premiums
CNN ^ | October 25, 2016 | Timothy Jost

Posted on 10/25/2016 7:03:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020

(CNN) — On November 1, the Affordable Care Act health insurance marketplaces will open for their fourth open enrollment period. On Monday, Healthcare.gov, the federal marketplace serving 39 states, pulled back the curtains to allow consumers to window shop for 2017 plans.

As it did so, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued a report analyzing the premiums consumers will have to pay for 2017 marketplace coverage and the coverage choices they will have available.

The HHS report documents what has already been widely reported -- that after two years of moderate premium increases (2% for 2015 and 7.5% for 2016) premiums are going up sharply for 2017. Across the 39 states using the HealthCare.gov platform, the median second-lowest cost silver plan, which sets the benchmark for premium tax credits, will increase 16%, while the average increase looking only at states on the federal exchange is 25%.

Opinion columnists and politicians will undoubtedly seize on the report as further evidence that the Affordable Care Act is a failure. But a deeper dig reveals a different story.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; healthcare; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 10/25/2016 7:03:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

Bill Clinton slams ObamaCare as ‘craziest thing in the world’

By Daniel Halper and Marisa Schultz

October 4, 2016

Bill Clinton has blasted President Obama’s signature piece of legislation — ObamaCare — as “the craziest thing in the world.”

You’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden, 25 million more people have health care, and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half and it’s the craziest thing in the world,” the former president railed at a rally in Michigan on Monday.

Clinton also said the system is hurting moderately successful small businesses — ones that aren’t doing poorly enough to be subsidized and fall just above the line.

“On the other hand, the current system works fine if you’re eligible for Medicaid, if you’re a lower-income working person, if you’re already on Medicare or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your health care,” Clinton said.

“But the people getting killed in this deal are the small-business people and individuals who make just a little bit too much to get any of these subsidies,” he added. ...”

http://nypost.com/2016/10/04/bill-clinton-slams-obamacare-as-craziest-thing-in-the-world/

2 posted on 10/25/2016 7:04:01 PM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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To: Trump20162020

CNN shilling for Obamacare.


3 posted on 10/25/2016 7:04:14 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Trump20162020

What a pile of smelly lies! Moderate increase? Policies were “underpriced” before?? Prices were promised to go down and they have been soaring.


4 posted on 10/25/2016 7:06:02 PM PDT by Williams (The (republican) party is over.)
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To: Williams

Obamacare is so popular Democrats lost their majorities because of it.

MSM keeps doubling down on defending their policy train wreck.


5 posted on 10/25/2016 7:11:46 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Trump20162020

You can keep your plan and doctor. Prices will go down. We have to pass it to see what’s in it.
The media and polls are totally unbiased.


6 posted on 10/25/2016 7:15:54 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Williams

Well, these liberal pukes always lie. Just like the biggest liar’ of them all who promised you can keep your healthcare or whatever BS he spouted off his ass..


7 posted on 10/25/2016 7:16:52 PM PDT by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Another deliberate carefully crafted lie is to equate health care with health insurance .
Yes it’s probably always better to health insurance , but people get health care without health insurance


8 posted on 10/25/2016 7:19:01 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Trump20162020

Yeah. Like we’re going to believe anything these liars say.


9 posted on 10/25/2016 7:19:49 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Trump20162020

Author of the CNN piece is Timothy Jost.
Story notes he is currently the Rockingham County, Virginia Democratic Party committee chairperson.
CNN says his opinions are his own, not necessarily CNN’s.
Fancy that.


10 posted on 10/25/2016 7:24:15 PM PDT by mumblypeg (We've had a p***y in the White House for 8 years. Make America Macho Again.)
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To: Williams

They never mention the huge deductibles or the lack of choice in insurance companies and health care providers.

I hope they are the first to suffer under a socialist system that rations care, hires incompetent doctors and nurses that have all the tenderness of DMV workers, and find they are denied treatment after age 60.


11 posted on 10/25/2016 7:28:48 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Trump20162020
The thing is, they're not actually going up. By going up, they're actually going down. See if up is down and right is left, then by increasing the premiums under the Affordable Care Act, the cost of purchasing the insurance coverage declines while apparently rising, thereby making "more expensive" equate to "less expensive."

Or some other mumbo-jumbo to convince us that night is day and we can't trust our lying eyes.

12 posted on 10/25/2016 7:32:45 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Trump20162020

Oh... and by the way... those “increases”???....

They don’t account for the additional drain on the system that will be caused by the flood of people who will stop playing this game.

So if you sign up with what you think is a “good” plan, don’t hold your breath too long for service....

and don’t be surprised if your “plan” gets cancelled before it goes into effect.


13 posted on 10/25/2016 7:40:49 PM PDT by Safrguns
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What a bunch of horse manure. I am not on obamacare but do follow their prices as I approach 60 and may face a layoff from a fortune 500 company. Here in southern California an Obamacare PPO plan with a 20% copay and a $750/month “subsidy” still costs me more than my employer pays for a far superior PPO plan with a much larger network and a 10% copay. This year obamacare is up 25% from last year. I wish I could stay on Cobra till 65 but the law says only 18 months max.


14 posted on 10/25/2016 7:42:22 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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To: Trump20162020

ROTFL. If you’re looking for the TRUTH, CNN is the last place you want to go.


15 posted on 10/25/2016 7:42:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Clintoon will be the "historical" first unindicted felon to sit in the Oval Office. Be proud!)
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To: Trump20162020

This is exactly why the MSM is at their lowest trust level ever.. People are no longer being fooled by their misrepresentations and lies because the internet is now available to prove the truth.. A modest increase of 7.5 percent.. lol..


16 posted on 10/25/2016 7:43:15 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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There was absolutely no reason whatsoever to add the adjective “modest” unless you are trying to downplay the increase.. just say it was a 7.5 % increase..


17 posted on 10/25/2016 7:44:57 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Trump20162020
Fifth, as has been widely reported, there will be fewer insurers in the marketplaces this year. But 79% of consumers in HealthCare.gov states will still have a choice of two or more insurers and 56% three or more.

They say this as if it's good, but even three to chose from is too few, and 44% of people have less than that.

19 posted on 10/25/2016 7:55:17 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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While in seven states premiums are increasing more than 50%, in 10 states premium increases are 7% or less.

So even though some premiums are going up by a whopping 50%, it's not really all that bad because some plans are going up less than that. Thanks CNN. I never realized that "averages" worked that way.

20 posted on 10/25/2016 7:59:11 PM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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