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Christian Family Loses Gay Cake Case
http://www.christianheadlines.com ^ | October 24, 2016 | Amanda Casanova

Posted on 10/25/2016 12:53:53 PM PDT by daniel1212

The Court of Appeal in Belfast has ruled against the owners of a bakery who appealed their case after they were accused of discrimination for refusing to make a cake with the phrase “Support Gay Marriage.”

Lord Chief Justice Sir Declan Morgan and two senior judges upheld County Court Judge Isobel Brownlie’s ruling that the McArthur family, owners of the Ashers Baking Company, discriminated against Gareth Lee.

The judges said that refusing service because of the slogan could be classified as “direct discrimination.”

“What they may not do is provide a service that only reflects their own political or religious message in relation to sexual orientation,” the judgment said.

In response to the ruling, Deputy Director for Public Affairs for the Christian Institute has called for the law to be changed to protect families like the McArthur family.

Equality laws are there to protect people from discrimination, not to force people to associate themselves with a cause they oppose,” he said.

“But those same laws have become a weapon in the hands of those who want to oppress anyone who dissents from the politically-correct norms of the moment. The law needs to change before more damage is done.”

Said Daniel McArthur, general manager of the bakery: “We’re extremely disappointed with today’s ruling. If equality law means people can be punished for politely refusing to support other people’s causes, then equality law needs to change.

“This ruling undermines democratic freedom,” he continued. “It undermines religious freedom. It undermines free speech.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ac; bakery; christian; christianpersecution; gays; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; persecution; religiousliberty
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To: daniel1212

It seems they should have to show they were harmed by addressing the issues of whether or not there were other bakers in the same area who would willingly serve their needs. They should have to show why in particular they wanted THIS bakery to make their cake. People should not be allowed to just do stunts to prove points and disrupt lives, clog courts to make their political points. If other competent bakeries are available at the same price then I don’t see how they are claiming they are harmed.


21 posted on 10/25/2016 1:59:10 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Safetgiver
Been done already.


22 posted on 10/25/2016 2:04:10 PM PDT by C210N
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To: daniel1212

It doesnt say what language it had to be written in.

Do it in muslim script. They complain tell them they are racist.


23 posted on 10/25/2016 2:38:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: daniel1212
So....if the Klan comes and asks me to bake a cake with some racist crap on it, I have to make it for them?

Oh, that's right--the Social Justice Warriors will then sue me for doing that.

24 posted on 10/25/2016 2:54:43 PM PDT by Lysandru
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25 posted on 10/25/2016 4:18:09 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: daniel1212

Exactly right!


26 posted on 10/25/2016 5:33:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyDancer
But those mussie truck drivers who refused to deliver beer because of, you know, allah and his crowd were awarded hundred of thousands of dollars because they were fired for their religion.

Correct: Muslim Truck Drivers Fired for Refusing to Deliver Beer Awarded $240K

27 posted on 10/25/2016 5:33:24 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
“This ruling undermines democratic freedom,” he continued. “It undermines religious freedom. It undermines free speech.”

Did it remove anyone's gonads?

28 posted on 10/25/2016 5:33:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alberta's Child
Nothing is more effective than using the left's tactics on your own side.

Yup!

29 posted on 10/25/2016 5:34:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Anima Mundi
It seems they should have to show they were harmed by addressing the issues of whether or not there were other bakers in the same area who would willingly serve their needs. They should have to show why in particular they wanted THIS bakery to make their cake. People should not be allowed to just do stunts to prove points and disrupt lives, clog courts to make their political points. If other competent bakeries are available at the same price then I don’t see how they are claiming they are harmed.

That is a factor, but as point out, Muslims can refuse to deliver beer, and likely transport someone to a gay "wedding.

30 posted on 10/25/2016 5:39:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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31 posted on 10/25/2016 5:41:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
It doesnt say what language it had to be written in. Do it in muslim script. They complain tell them they are racist.

You mean in Afrikaan language

32 posted on 10/25/2016 5:41:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

I can see how fairness works for liberals.


33 posted on 10/25/2016 5:44:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: daniel1212

Anti-discrimination laws sounded so reasonable at first, didn’t they? Little did people realize that freedom of association is vital to freedom in general, and that the government now has a club to beat citizens into compliance.

People should be allowed to discriminate against anyone for any reason. Only government should be prohibited from discriminating. Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams agree.


34 posted on 10/25/2016 7:41:05 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Milton Miteybad

or he could continue being a full-service bakery that decorates cakes, and the government and courts could remain out of his business. The is more precedent for that than the idea that offending causes harm.


35 posted on 10/26/2016 7:37:09 AM PDT by xone
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To: daniel1212
Of course, this could never happen here in America. /sarc
36 posted on 10/26/2016 11:44:09 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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