Posted on 10/20/2016 8:40:53 PM PDT by brucedickinson
Go to Google, type in "Hillary 4 minute nukes," or some variation thereof, and you will be guided to a first choice from "Snopes," the "fact-checking" site of the Democrats. Apparently, what Hillary said wasn't classified at all. She committed no crime and we can all sleep easier.
(Excerpt) Read more at snopes.com ...
Oh my God, people.
Not only is it open source, the info has been in the public domain for at least forty years.
There are plenty of things to hate Hillary over. This is not one of them.
Well, I had lunch yesterday with a retired AF two star - he is PISSED OFF at Illary. Ten minute diatribe about her treason.
Even when information is fully discussed in the open press, it’s still a major crime to CONFIRM it in public.
Obama? He would head for the basement. Or the helicopter - If he could make it out of DC in time.
Bill Clinton? Probably ... if he could find the codes,
Carter? Probably not now. Then? Probably.
Hillary? No.
What?? There’s video!
It seems to me that Snopes is possibly confusing two different actions in the execution sequence: the time the President has to decide to execute a counter attack versus the time from making that decision to actual missile launch. The latter is, in my opinion, what the heartburn is about among Pentagon strategic response officials.
Given the estimated 12 minute flight time of a Russian “decapitation” first strike submarine missile launch from the western Atlantic, the counter strike force must be in flight and clear of the missile silo launch area to avoid destruction. You can tease the process of the counter strike into discrete steps, evaluate how long each will take - primarily through testing- and assign maximum decision/execution times to each:
It takes this much time to detect the attack missile exhausts as they ascend on their way to US targets.
It takes this much time for STRATCOM to assess the incoming data and decide an attack is underway.
It takes this much time to to notify the President that an attack has been launched.
It takes this much time the communicate the counter attack order back to STRATCOM.
It takes this much time to communicate and confirm the launch orders all the way down to the individual missile silos/platforms.
It takes this long to actually launch the missiles.
It takes this long for the missiles to get far enough away so that they are not going to be affected by attacking missile warhead detonation.
The only thing you cannot test is how long the President will take to make the decision to order the counter strike. You can only define a maximum time available based on what remains of the 12 minutes after the time required by all the other steps is deducted.
What you can do is work very hard to shorten the testable legs to give the President the maximum time possible to reach the decision. This is because because execution is irreversible once the attack order is given and the solid rocket motors are ignited.
Our enemies are not stupid and probably have a decent idea of how long each step in the process is going to take. What they lack is confirmation that their estimates are accurate. This uncertainty exists because of the efforts being made to shorten the counter strike decision process. The detail of these efforts are classified as are the actual performance improvements to the systems involved.
By her remark during the debate, Hillary inadvertently confirmed how short the time is to get US missiles into the air once the counter strike decision is made. I’m assuming this information is classified unless, of course, one of her enablers removed the “C” from the document. < /sarcasm>
their logic, we can’t know it is classified because it is classified, since we can’t prove it true, it is false
CNN’s Starr: Clinton’s Answer On Nuke Launch Time Used ‘Extremely Classified’ Info
breitbart.com ^ | Oct 20, 2016
Posted on 10/21/2016, 12:44:35 AM by Helicondelta
On Thursday’s broadcast of “CNN Newsroom,” CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr reported that Democratic presidential nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s statement about the time it takes to launch nuclear weapons is “extremely classified,” and while there is a lot of information available to public on what the process is for launching nuclear weapons, “if you know information to be classified, and you’re a government official, even if it’s in the open source, even if it’s on the Internet, you are not supposed to disclose it.”
She further stated, “the bottom line is, the US military, not especially thrilled to be discussing in precise detail what it takes to launch nuclear weapons.”
Way to destroy your credibility Snopes
Yup, Snopes comes up top on pinko-Google. And the Snopes piece is a huge lie. They address only other’s comments on how long it takes to determine if a strike against us is happening being classified. They do NOT address what Hillary said - how long it takes from order to launch.
Snopes even admits they’re lying (diverging slightly, LOL) with “At this point the substance of the claim diverges slightly, from holding that it takes four minutes to launch nuclear weapons once the President has given the order to do so, to holding that the President has four minutes to decide whether to launch nuclear weapons once he’s been informed that a nuclear attack on the U.S. is imminent.”
To defend liars, one must also lie.
“Snopes is accurate? FALSE!”
Snopes has been Snoped.
Things have changed since then.
Understood, but Snopes, and I assume most of us, not having access to this info, would not be in a position to pronounce this either true or false. The Pentagon does, but I doubt they will confirm or deny it.
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