Posted on 10/20/2016 1:08:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump is more similar to the Founders of our country than anyone who has run for the presidency in my lifetime.
What?! What?! Didn't Trump just jump an entire school of sharks in the third debate, saying he didn't know if he would accept the outcome of the election. Isn't he finished? Are you out of your bloody mind, Simon?
Okay, maybe, it wouldn't be the first time... but hear me out.
Put briefly: If Donald Trump believes—as many of us do—that the FBI is corrupt, the Justice Department is corrupt, the other party is hiring violent paid thugs to disrupt his campaign rallies, that no one knows who is really registered to vote, that the press is stratospherically biased, and that his opponent, backed up by all those corrupt entities, should have been indicted, why would a patriot, or for that matter someone who is even routinely honest, necessarily accept the results of the election of that opponent?
Ben Franklin wouldn't. Thomas Jefferson wouldn't. James Madison wouldn't. Sam Adams wouldn't. Of course, those guys were revolutionaries. These days we're just, you know, "good citizens" who obey the rules and move on. With that kind of behavior in the past, our country wouldn't even be here. But never mind.
Not convinced? Think of the reverse. Suppose Trump had meekly said he would accept the outcome with the smirking Hillary—the woman he has called a crook and who, for all intents and purposes, is one—standing only a few feet away? Wouldn't that, in the true sense, have invalidated everything he has been saying? #DraintheSwamp, my eye!
Now, as we all know, Trump has been here before, back in the primaries, when he made no guarantee he would accept the nominee of his party and, as I recall, received a round of boos at that debate for his non-declaration. He later went up in the polls despite those boos.
Will that happen this time? Not if the mainstream media has anything to do with it. As I write they are damning Trump forever with faint praise—or should I say they are "concern trolling" him—by saying how well he was doing in the debate until he jumped that shark and betrayed everything our country stands for.
The implication here, of course, is that everyone should forgive Hillary Clinton after she is elected and just ignore what happened with the bogus FBI investigation. Good luck with that. More likely the road ahead will be extremely rocky with more WikiLeaks revelations (they could even be saving their more dramatic ones for after the election), not to mention defections from the FBI and elsewhere, subpoenas from Judicial Watch and others with inflammatory and illegal emails and documents appearing for years.
Okay, I'll say it. When Donald said he wouldn't necessarily accept the results of election 2016, he was doing us all a favor. The democratic republic about whose precariousness Franklin warned us at the founding is shaky indeed at this moment. Leaders have gone beyond the law, as the new Project Veritas videos painfully remind us once again. Only the toughest love can save our republic now.
Hillary will have hundreds of lawyers on standby on election day, Democrats fight to win
The way Wallace asked the question was disingenuous. And Trump did not do a good job with it. First, Wallace implied that the choice was between accepting the result or violence. Trump can easily reject the election and still not cause violence. Violence has nothing to do with it. Its not like Trump is going back and collect his army.
Second, why should Trump accept this election? Between the IRS, the media’s pay to play (we will give you answers or let you edit our stories and you give us quotes), the foreign pay to play through the Clinton Foundation, the FBI’s abdication of authority (Martha Stewart went to jail for less), its been far from fair. Additionally, the Democrat party, White House and Hillary campaign sent Hooligans to riot at Trump rallies which speaks to a Hitler, brown shirt type of government takeover. All of this is to fight democracy. The elite don’t think we will get the vote right. So they are doing everything legal and illegal to put their thumb, foot and ass on the scales ensuring a Hillary win. I won’t accept this election and neither should anyone else.
In August, Dobbs let slip that Trump has 7000 lawyers ready to deploy on election day
This is all they have: vapors over Trump’s refusal to concede the election no matter what? Weak.
70% + Americans think the election is rigged.
Sure, let’s give the voter felons free reign over their endeavors by pledging not to contest.
These days we’re just, you know, “good citizens”
Nope. If we were good citizens the elites would still fear us. Anything is possible now because the elites are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that we are feckless.
What Trump is doing is what it looks like when you fight corruption and fraud.
Yes, I was sitting in an office watching the news tapes on the election returns from the day before. With the Illinois count from downstate virtually complete, Nixon—who had been trailing in the State all evening and through the night, but slowly gaining as the Conservative areas were counted to offset the Chicago results, gradually forged into the lead. Then with the count about complete, a solid block of 25,000 Kennedy votes were discovered in Chicago, and Kennedy captured the State.
Genius! Been saying it for year, and still believe it to this day! He will win!
Amazing. So there would be a strong presumption of fraud. But Nixon did not pursue. Very interesting.
Amazing. So there would be a strong presumption of fraud. But Nixon did not pursue. Very interesting.
The rest of the JFK vs Nixon story can be found in the book “The Dark Side of Camelot”. Anyone who can find it should read it. Well written, heavily researched. All about JFK and his personal and political life, rather than the 3287 books about his assassination.
Kennedy’s father was a bootlegger during prohibition, but not one of the guys hot rodding the backroads in a black Dodge, he brought it in by the ship load from overseas. To get anything unloaded in the New York harbor money had to go into Mafia hands, they controlled the harbor and shipyard unions. No mafia payoff, no docking.
So Joe Kennedy had upper level mob connections from those days and called in a favor. Nobody knows how much money changed hands. He arranged a meeting with the head mob boss in Chicago, all union members in Illinois were informed that they would vote for Kennedy. That’s where the sudden 25,000 votes came from.
Anyway, Trump made a good call last night. I think he should have given a better answer, and asked why he should accept the results of a future election with plenty evidence of a rigged election already.
I agree, why should he accept it in advance? We have plenty evidence and more coming out, that serious voter fraud will play a part in this election. If he took the Romney road and agreed, with his tail tucked between his legs, Hillary could cheat all she wanted and he would have this promise hanging over his head.
Now, he leaves himself the option to challenge the outcome if it looks like anything is out of place.
Forget about the MSM taking the high road and letting him simply give an honest answer...they’ve been bashing him all day.
Then again, he knew that, and it gets him more free coverage...
Genius.
Dear Washington,
America is coming,
and they’re bringing Donald J Trump.
We had a governor’s race here in Washington state that was recounted by the libs three times until they “found” enough votes to get her elected. And because the lib government didn’t get the overseas military vote out on time because they failed to send the ballots on time, and even though they were here for months during the recount, their votes were never counted to this day.
So, voter fraud exists and has for a long time, maybe over 100 years. But with the creation of technology, it is just now being looked into. But it will never be a reason to take out a winning candidate. The GOP doesn’t have the guts to do it.
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Trump has been caught telling the TRUTH again.
Here’s the deal: The malignant Clinton crime organization has been proven to have metastasized into the entire diseased Federal bureaucracy, along with the captive media and the globalist wing of the GOP.
Direct evidence of Voter fraud and Election fraud on a massive and previously unimagined scale have been revealed.
Foreign powers have openly bought influence.
Massive theft has occurred. Just ask Haiti. Not to mention Iran.
One federal entity, the FBI, has essentially OUTED ITSELF.
And Trump is supposed to accept this?
I DON’T THINK SO.
Are you absolutely sure ?
That was embarrassing. I am at an account far out in the sticks and my cell tower contact is intermittent
Nixon did not seek to be a "good sport." In 1960 the Cold War world was tense, with Soviets and Chinese Communists on the offensive, nuclear tipped missiles being aimed at the country, the possibility of war in Europe being considered real, not hypothetical. Nixon made the judgment that at that time a Constitutional crisis would threaten the stability of US standing in foreign affairs, with possibly disastrous results.
“I think you just set a record.”
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You can say that again, Mears! ;)
j/k, MrEdd. Sometimes my keyboard or tablet doesn’t seem to respond; it happens to the best of us. :)
I heard him ... HE DIDN’T SAY THAT!!!!! He said “Wait and see”.
“Then with the count about complete, a solid block of 25,000 Kennedy votes were discovered in Chicago, and Kennedy captured the State.”
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My grandmother worked for the city of Chicago for forty years, including during Mayor Daley’s (the first) for years. Chicago has a history of shenanigans.
And I think it is well documented that Joseph Kennedy asked for mob help, via Frank Sinatra and Sam Giancana, to deliver the election for Kennedy. Illinois and West Virginia.
This, from 60 Minutes (Sinatra’s daughter):
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tina-sinatra-mob-ties-aided-jfk/
Joseph Kennedy certainly made a fortune in the “spirits importation” business. Some claim that happened even during Prohibition. So perhaps he wasn’t above getting his hands dirty.
But it is not right to speak ill of the dead. I’m just saying he had a lot of ambition for his children.
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Accepting the outcome ahead of time would just give the RATS a license to cheat more than normal.
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