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Media Polls [Don't you believe 'em!]
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | October 18, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 10/19/2016 7:12:12 AM PDT by Rockitz

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TRUMP LANDSLIDE COMING...
1 posted on 10/19/2016 7:12:12 AM PDT by Rockitz
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To: Rockitz

These false polls serve several purposes. Besides intimidating opposition voters and bolstering voters in their corner, the polls add a feeling of legitimacy to their win when the commit fraud. “See, it was close, anyway.”
Much better than trying to explain how they won when the polls showed it to be impossible.
People need to wake up and take this electronic vote counting fraud seriously or it will be over before we know it!


2 posted on 10/19/2016 7:18:44 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

But they are gospel now.

Pray America wakes


3 posted on 10/19/2016 7:20:10 AM PDT by bray (Because you would be in jail)
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To: Rockitz
Been saying it for 13 months now, Trump LANDSLIDE!!!! Will make the Reagan miracle look like a squeaker.

Trump ~ 65%

hIllary ~ 27%

4 posted on 10/19/2016 7:20:44 AM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: Rockitz

Consider Brexit too.

The MSM is in the tank for hillary. If Trump was ahead in the polls, do you think they would report it?? Hell no.

To answer my above premise, I think that Trump is doing much much better than what the polls are indicating.


5 posted on 10/19/2016 7:21:02 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Rockitz

psy-ops is the first tool in the leftist arsenal, to denigrate and wear down resolve and hope. This is outright lying, but what problem do Dems have with that?


6 posted on 10/19/2016 7:25:06 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: TMA62

I am really concerned about how Chris Wallace will attempt to bail out Hitlery, tonight.

The MSM (Including FOX News) is really threatened by Trump and they will do anything to stop him.


7 posted on 10/19/2016 7:25:24 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Time for a new party for We the People, to restore a two-party system!)
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To: TMA62

Your exactly right. With all the crap the lying dem media does why would anyone think they would not cook the polls.


8 posted on 10/19/2016 7:26:59 AM PDT by meridenite
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To: Rockitz

The EPIC Brexit polling failure offers further proof that political polls are not intended to discern public opinion but to influenece it. They just think we are too stupid to realize it!

From a piece in American Thinker after the Brexit vote:

For the weak-minded among us who continue to believe in polling data, the Brexit vote shows – yet again – what a biased absurdity the polls have become.

But delusions and obfuscation runs deep in the mainstream trenches.

Nate Cohn at the New York Times writes that “[i]t was not a cataclysmic polling failure[.] ... [I]t’s hard to argue that this was a big polling failure.”

Sure it wasn’t. Once you are done rolling around on the floor in laughter at claims that this wasn’t a massive polling failure, read on.

To review, the Brexit side won by 4%, 52% to 48%.

Not a single one of the well known polling aggregators/predictors picked Brexit in their last-minute final projections.

Elections Etc. had the Remain side up by 6.6%, 53.3% to 46.7%.
Number Cruncher Politics had the Remain side up by 6%, 53% to 47%.
What UK Thinks: EU had the Remain side up by 4%, 52% to 48%.
The Financial Times had the Remain side up by 2%, 48% to 46%.
Britain Elects had the Remain side up by 1.6%, 50.8% to 49.2%.
HuffPost Pollster had the Remain side up by 0.5%, 45.8% to 45.3%.
The Economist’s poll tracker had the race tied at 44% apiece.
Thus, we had a systematic bias in the aggregated polling data that ranged from 4% to almost 11%.

Individual polls leading up to the vote were publishing ridiculous results. In the week prior to the vote, 9 of the 13 polls predicted a victory for Remain ranging from 1% up to 10%. Just three polls had Leave in the lead, but just by 1% to 3% – i.e., still below the actual margin of victory – and one poll had a tie. Not a single individual poll got the result correct, or overpredicted a Leave win.


9 posted on 10/19/2016 7:28:30 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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A.B.Stoddard said similar a month ago regarding stories and polls. I haven’t seen her on Fox since.


10 posted on 10/19/2016 7:31:23 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Redleg Duke
I am really concerned about how Chris Wallace will attempt to bail out Hitlery, tonight.

I'm with you. Wallace is as left leaning as the rest of the media. Don't forget the most in your face attack on Trump was perpetrated by Fox's own Megyn Kelly.

11 posted on 10/19/2016 7:32:02 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent MajorityStands With TRUMP!)
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To: Redleg Duke

> I am really concerned about how Chris Wallace will attempt to bail out Hitlery, tonight.

Of course he will.

But of course Trump knows that as well. And I seriously doubt he’s unprepared for it.


12 posted on 10/19/2016 7:32:19 AM PDT by thoughtomator (This election is a referendum on the Rule of Law)
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To: moehoward

She was on some show yesterday. She said.....people are laughing at me but I still think Trump can pull this off.
Caught it as a glance as I was walking by.


13 posted on 10/19/2016 7:35:07 AM PDT by sheana
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To: fwdude
psy-ops is the first tool in the leftist arsenal, to denigrate and wear down resolve and hope. This is outright lying, but what problem do Dems have with that?


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14 posted on 10/19/2016 7:37:34 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Rockitz
As I see it, the media is willing to put out polls showing a large lead for Clinton in order to cover for their illegal and fraudulent voting which is the only way they can get Clinton over the finish line. They can say that the polls showing Trump ahead were wrong and they were right. Wikileaks has confirmed the long time democrat methods and practices of voter fraud like intimidation at the polls and carting their paid humans from one voter site to the next. The media will not and has not informed the voting public of the voter irregularities which have brought about the current devaluation of the legal vote that is cast by an American citizen. Donald Trump has so much cleaning up to do it will be a huge job just to prioritize the most immediate tasks. GO TRUMP.
15 posted on 10/19/2016 7:40:06 AM PDT by mountainfolk
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To: Gargantua

God, I hope you are right.


16 posted on 10/19/2016 7:43:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Rockitz

In 2012 I believed the unskewed polls. I was waiting for the Romney landslide. I never expected Zero to win. It was very traumatic to me.

Now I cant but help worry over the polls.


17 posted on 10/19/2016 7:43:33 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: Rockitz
The closer our nation has approached true Idiocracy, the dirtier political campaigns have become, and the closer we get to complete irreconcilability with the opposition.

I can't imagine that things were any more acrimonious in 1860 . . .

18 posted on 10/19/2016 7:43:41 AM PDT by tomkat
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19 posted on 10/19/2016 7:43:42 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ArtDodger
The polls are also intended to break our spirit. But consider:

Note On Essential Tactics

I do not want to come across as arrogant; but based on 60+ years of fighting for traditional American values, including hours of using live TV to advantage, I want to share some experience driven suggestions, both for our candidate, and all of us who will be actively promoting a Trump victory in just 20 days.

While speaking in anger can sometimes help rally those who share your beliefs and priorities, it is not the most effective way to convert those who dissent from our purpose. When there is a real problem to be addressed, it is almost always better to speak in sorrow than in anger.

In the present ideological conflict, there is great reason for sorrow. We need to interject, in every possible exchange, those contemporary phenomena that are not only unfortunate from our stand point; but which are likely to be understood as sad by anyone listening to us.

Putting this understanding to work in a situation such as tonight's Presidential debate; Trump needs to intertwine his response to essential policy issues, by sadly lamenting the background social climate, which certainly impacts all aspects of contemporary American life, including the problem reflected in the issue. For example:

The decline in pride in heritage, openly encouraged by Obama's repeated apologies to others for America's traditions & achievement--leading to Americans kneeling through the Star Spangled Banner;--his & Mrs. Clinton's siding with Soros financed thugs against the Police--leading to the cold blooded assassination of American cops;--their refusal to protect the border, leading to job losses among rooted Americans, brutal crimes against American women, and the despicable riots in California, where aliens who do not share our values, or honor our heritage, intimidate local officials into not celebrating the achievements of the Founding Fathers and their posterity.

It was only last week, when anti-American culturalists advocated not celebrating Columbus Day! The Obama/Clinton cabal seem intent on denying that our values & achievements, under uniquely American cultural values, grew directly out of the experience driven values of particular European settlers. That is fact. It takes nothing away from the achievements or values of any other people; but it is our fact, and we are entitled to honor that fact and the rich cultural heritage it reflects.

To the extent that the Obama/Clinton cabal would deny us pride in our history, they are truly bigoted enemies. But we do best, again, when we lament the success of our enemies, as we explain, again quietly and sadly, how totally despicable is this ongoing attack, coming indeed from those who have benefited so much, while gaming our system.

Some may think that this approach is going soft. It is precisely the opposite. In place of venting our wrath at the Obama/Clinton betrayal, we begin to instill wrath in some of those who otherwise would simply go along with the enemy, "to get along."

There is nothing the least bit new in these tactics. Anyone familiar with Shakespeare's play "Julius Caesar," is quite familiar with the technique. It worked in the play because it reflects a true understanding of the psychological factors involved.

William Flax

20 posted on 10/19/2016 7:45:22 AM PDT by Ohioan
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