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My theory on WHEN and with WHO the GOPe collusion started ... (vanity)

Posted on 10/11/2016 7:32:47 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn

Bush Senior became Reagan's Vice President after he agreed to say to say he would "implicitly abandon his support for abortion and his opposition to supply-side economics by embracing the platform".

It is my theory that Bush senior didn't like or agree with Reagan and was either approached by the left or his views were just more in line with the left, either way, the GOPe cabal started the day Bush senior took office.

From their we bounced back and forth between Clinton's and more Bush's to Obama and we stand here now very close to electing YET ANOTHER CLINTON. It's been a sloping downhill fall that is gaining momentum such that all of Washington is on the same team, that is the team we are playing against. It's interesting to note how close Bush senior and Bill Clinton have become.

Something changed in America the day Bush senior took the White House. What changed was that it became Washington vs the people instead of what it should have been, and always had been up until that point. Politicians became aware of it, were either threatened or simply didn't care who one elections or what policies were enacted as long as they could keep their positions in power.


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1 posted on 10/11/2016 7:32:47 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: Scythian_Reborn
From their we bounced back and forth....

Of course you meant "THERE" not "their". Right?

2 posted on 10/11/2016 7:37:46 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA and Clinton: Defiantly destroying America one deranged decision at a time)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Bush was head of CIA.
New World Order through-and-through.


3 posted on 10/11/2016 7:39:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Rapscallion

And now, it is the Bush family who is working hardest to undermine trump, and who was probably involved in leaking the tape on Trump, because it is a threat to their cabal.


4 posted on 10/11/2016 7:39:06 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: Scythian_Reborn

GHWB worked tirelessly against RR from the moment he first became Veep and was a prime source of Administration turbulence in both RR terms.

(Never understood the massive love for all persons named Bush as expressed by so many FReepers’ postings here. Main reason for my delay in registering as a Free Republic user.)


5 posted on 10/11/2016 7:39:44 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Scythian_Reborn

You make hash of English prose.


6 posted on 10/11/2016 7:40:57 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA and Clinton: Defiantly destroying America one deranged decision at a time)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Bush was Reagan’s concession to the GOPe. Nothing more. No mystery and no surprise, witness the behavior of the Bushes. I spent eight years praying Bush would begin to defend conservativism. Not a peep. We were constantly reassured that in spite of everything he “really was conservative”. Yet we were told he felt defending himself, the office, and US was “beneath the dignity of the office”.

At this juncture one really has to question that assertion.


7 posted on 10/11/2016 7:41:03 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Rapscallion
You make hash of English prose.

Whatever, you got the point, are you in the Bush cabal or what?
8 posted on 10/11/2016 7:41:35 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: Scythian_Reborn

“voodoo economics”, “kinder gentler nation”, “1000 points of lights”. He slammed Reagan coming and going. I did not like it then and it’s gotten much worse since then.


9 posted on 10/11/2016 7:42:08 AM PDT by Shark24 (.)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

I take it you’re a relative youngster.

The GOPe/Bush-wing of the party fought Reagan bitterly for a full decade before he finally broke through and won in 1980.


10 posted on 10/11/2016 7:42:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Scythian_Reborn

The Bush family is angry that Trump blasted Jeb to smithereens. That is why they oppose Trump so viciously. Trump ended their dreams of a political dynasty.


11 posted on 10/11/2016 7:44:18 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA and Clinton: Defiantly destroying America one deranged decision at a time)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Our political system is so corrupted, it’s hard to tell good from bad. Not too many people think there is a good politician anymore.


12 posted on 10/11/2016 7:45:01 AM PDT by mia
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To: Scythian_Reborn

The GOP schism predates Reagan/Bush. In my lifetime, the Goldwater/Rockefeller battles of the 60s were the equal of what we are battling today, as I recall.

History records that the Taft/Dewey split was also contentious, but I didn’t witness them.


13 posted on 10/11/2016 7:46:23 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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The answer to this apparent quandary isn’t complicated: the GOP establishment shares more of the Democrats’ agenda than they do with what the American people.
Rejecting Jeb was just the catalyst.
The neo-cons at the Weekly Standard want an aggressive foreign policy, while working class Americans are tired of losing sons so they can play armchair generals.
The National Review, Ted Cruz and the rest, the Wall Street Journal, all side with globalists.
The guys we mistakenly believed to be on our side have to crayfish and truckel to the `rats over the `shiftless, crack-addled’ working class and issues like the 2nd amendment, life, jobs and trade, well—that’s just the way it is.
So they become churlish when we ask them what in the hell they think they’re doing: rejecting their party’s candidate, and they strenuously object that they don’t support and will not vote for Hillary, while they support Hillary and plan to vote for her.
Neo-rats. Turncoats.


14 posted on 10/11/2016 7:54:50 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Scythian_Reborn
It is all about the Bush family - except when it is all about a Romney - since the 1960s.

As I was driving to work this morning I had a coffee flashback to GWB justifying military action "because they threatened my dad." I was suddenly pissed off because that is how dynasties make decisions, not republics. Then I was pissed at ME for buying the neocon/cuck/GOP-e bullcrap so long.

Mr. niteowl77

15 posted on 10/11/2016 7:55:32 AM PDT by niteowl77 (No Bushes, no Clintons, no fooling around.)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Since 1988 (and maybe beginning with the assassination attempt on Reagan) we have had one presidential administration - the Bush Clinton Bush Obama Administration.


16 posted on 10/11/2016 8:00:33 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Scythian_Reborn

A very good point about Bush. One piece of evidence; in 1980, Reagan wanted to signal that he was different from Carter. The peanut’s first act as president was to pardon the Vietnam draft dodgers; Reagan wanted to counter this spit in the face of the veterans and their families so his first act in office right after his Inaugural speech was to pardon the FBI agents who supposedly unlawfully taped the Weathermen bombers, including Bill Ayers. Bush wanted to send a signal to the Establishment that he was in favor of no such thing, so in his Inaugural speech, he implicitly slapped Vietnam veterans and their families by referring to “that war and a Statute of Limitations applies”. The implicit clear inference was that the Vietnam War was some sort of criminal enterprise; interesting, since as a congressman he voted for it. Thus, this clown distanced himself from Reagan and sent a signal to the Establishment that despite his conservative campaign rhetoric, he was really one of them and had little to do with “those people”. Read his lips, listen to his voice and we see and hear the true George Bush and the guide for his loser stupid sons.


17 posted on 10/11/2016 8:01:00 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Scythian_Reborn

A very good point about Bush. One piece of evidence; in 1980, Reagan wanted to signal that he was different from Carter. The peanut’s first act as president was to pardon the Vietnam draft dodgers; Reagan wanted to counter this spit in the face of the veterans and their families so his first act in office right after his Inaugural speech was to pardon the FBI agents who supposedly unlawfully taped the Weathermen bombers, including Bill Ayers. Bush wanted to send a signal to the Establishment that he was in favor of no such thing, so in his Inaugural speech, he implicitly slapped Vietnam veterans and their families by referring to “that war and a Statute of Limitations applies”. The implicit clear inference was that the Vietnam War was some sort of criminal enterprise; interesting, since as a congressman he voted for it. Thus, this clown distanced himself from Reagan and sent a signal to the Establishment that despite his conservative campaign rhetoric, he was really one of them and had little to do with “those people”. Read his lips, listen to his voice and we see and hear the true George Bush and the guide for his loser stupid sons.


18 posted on 10/11/2016 8:01:00 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Resettozero

I recall that being true, and remember an interview Barbara Bush gave where she said something to the effect that Ron and Nancy wanted nothing to with them, avoided them at all costs and made it clear they wanted to Bush family to stay out of the White House and remain at the VP residence.

Gee, Barbara. I wonder why? Ronald and Nancy knew how to recognize a couple of sleazeball, backstabbing, traitors when they saw them.


19 posted on 10/11/2016 8:02:55 AM PDT by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: Scythian_Reborn
Some of this may just be the inevitable consequences of building an empire and eradicating your own national identity.

For all his flaws, I think even Jimmy Carter was more of a nationalist than a globalist.

20 posted on 10/11/2016 8:03:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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