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Evangelical Leaders Stand By Trump
thehill.com ^ | October 08, 2016

Posted on 10/08/2016 7:43:52 AM PDT by Helicondelta

Family Research Council head Tony Perkins told BuzzFeed News his support for Trump is about conservative policy stances, not personal values.

“My personal support for Donald Trump has never been based upon shared values, it is based upon shared concerns about issues such as: justices on the Supreme Court that ignore the constitution, America’s continued vulnerability to Islamic terrorists and the systematic attack on religious liberty that we’ve seen in the last 7 1/2 years,” Perkins said.

And Faith and Freedom Coalition president Ralph Reed cited abortion, the economy and the Middle East as keys to his continued backing of Trump.

“Voters of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defend religious freedom, create jobs, and oppose the Iran nuclear deal,” said Reed.

“Ten-year-old tapes of private conversation with a television talk show host rank very low on their hierarchy of concerns,” he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: Helicondelta

BOOM!


21 posted on 10/08/2016 8:06:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Mitt didn’t seem to be able to be resolute about anything except waffling and sometimes about pessimism (such as his 47% comment). That greatly handicapped his representation of the more conservative side of America.

The last time conservatism had a good go, it was because of the optimism of its proponent, Ronald Reagan, and he had a pretty good foil in the pessimism of his opponent, Jimmy Carter, to set off his optimism.

Donald has a stiffer challenge. The pessimism isn’t so much ostensibly in Hillary (she’s quite perky about her misguided ideas) as in the people. He has to refute the demons in people’s heads, not just the demons in Washington.


22 posted on 10/08/2016 8:07:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Psalm 144

I have been posting that Americans need to examine their news the way Soviet citizens once read Pravda. The truth was contained in Pravda, but you had to de-code it by reading coded messages “between the lines” and from putting an isolated story into the context of a series of stories over time. By so doing, most Soviets actually knew something approximating the “truth,” but of course they were not allowed to speak it openly.

Americans need to master the same ability, because we are being fed our information the same way Soviet citizens got theirs. We can no longer accept what our media shoves at us at face value. It has an agenda, it has spin, it is mostly propaganda. It is deliberately designed to yield a public opinion result.


23 posted on 10/08/2016 8:08:41 AM PDT by henkster (Better to be Pavlov's Dog than Schroedinger's Cat)
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To: Helicondelta

Well stated. But people who are still stuck on what the MSM thinks and throws out there about Trump have become as vapid as hardcore Democrats. The MSM have completely ignored the latest wiki leaks which are a huge indictment of the hypocrite Hillary and her two-faced Wall Street/middle-class treatment. I’m not moved a single iota whenever the MSM makes something THEIR priority about reporting - for obvious reasons. Go TRUMP!


24 posted on 10/08/2016 8:08:48 AM PDT by Lent
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To: Tennessee Conservative

To see a man fail and then recover by what looks like the love of God is indeed a more encouraging sight than the plaster saint that Ted Cruz was.

A saint who was sincere about being a saint, would have made it about things that were bigger than himself. At some point he would have said Donald, God, whose ultimate plans are beyond mortal understanding, has put the wind at your back, and I am stepping aside and wishing you every blessing in your quest — instead of grumbling on for weeks and months.


25 posted on 10/08/2016 8:10:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Helicondelta

Isn’t it strange that Liberals, all of a sudden, sound like the most moralistic,Bible thumping evangelical you have ever heard? Please spare us your faux moral indignation and go back to worshiping St. Hillary of Little Rock.


26 posted on 10/08/2016 8:10:33 AM PDT by deener
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To: Helicondelta

Interesting....


27 posted on 10/08/2016 8:13:17 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: dowcaet
I think everyone is learning their lesson of what happens if you sit on your moral high horse, and decide to sit elections out. Haven’t the last eight years, especially the last four, proven that.

The Left is mysterfied that evangelicals continue to support Trump after his locker room talk as if sitting it out or voting for Hillary is an acceptable alternative.

28 posted on 10/08/2016 8:13:29 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

These evangelicals, and now even a lot of traditionally religious minded Catholics, are seeing a case where purism has to go out the window. Not that they do not continue to hope in and call on a pure God, but they accept that this pure God can arrange to carry on His blessings even though an impure servant. The “tricky” part here is to not trust the servant directly. The servant may err, in which case he should be admonished and exhorted to do the godly thing instead. But he looks like he is well on the way already.


29 posted on 10/08/2016 8:16:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: deener

They’re throwing shadows around.

My question to those lefties who are horrified about how Donald Trump has demeaned women, is why are you preferring the way that both Bill and Hill acted in concert to demean women and haven’t even disavowed it? To borrow a Yiddish term, Trump is a mensch. Ms. Clinton is, well, my mind does not want to even think of the words.


30 posted on 10/08/2016 8:19:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Drew68

The Left is mysterfied that evangelicals continue to support Trump after his locker room talk as if sitting it out or voting for Hillary is an acceptable alternative.

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Trump in a Landslide. Now Trump knows his enemies in the Republican party.


31 posted on 10/08/2016 8:24:39 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Williams

GOOD!! Billy Graham stood by Bill Clinton when he got caught red-handed! And the media pukes we’re praising Mr. Graham ecstatically! I am sick sick of the double standard I don’t give a CHIT what they throw at trump I’m still voting for him!


32 posted on 10/08/2016 8:32:27 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas

Billy Graham was, alas, too optimistic. Did Bill disavow his sordid habits? Did Bill stop using Hill as his hitwoman?

It is a sad note in Billy Graham’s life if he was fooled by the Clintons.


33 posted on 10/08/2016 8:39:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: conservativepoet

Trumpalanche zone.


34 posted on 10/08/2016 8:40:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Helicondelta

Trump is a man! Liberals want neutered, ball-less, effeminate, homosexuals for “men”.

Don’t let the lesbians of the world run it; they are just homosexuals that can’t get laid!


35 posted on 10/08/2016 8:41:06 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Helicondelta

President Jimmy Carter - in his own words - told by Robert Scheer of the LA Times:

Jimmy Carter called me the other day to clear up the confusion in his mind about the lust in his heart. Actually he was returning my call, since I had taken umbrage over the treatment in his current book “Living Faith,” of the Playboy interview I did with him during his 1976 presidential campaign.

Although he refers in his book to the hullabaloo over the interview as “one of the best-known events in U.S. political history,” the story behind the interview that nearly cost Carter the election has never been fully told.

During the campaign, Carter had made a big deal about being a devout born-again Baptist. In the interview, which was conducted over some weeks on airplanes and finally at his home in Plains, Ga., he was pressed on the policy implications of his religious views. The evening before our final session, then-Playboy editor Barry Golson and I had dinner with Carter’s press secretary, Jody Powell, and we told him the candidate still came across as uptight. Powell said he would get Carter to loosen up.

The next day, as the interview was concluding, Carter was asked, one last time, if his strong religious beliefs would cause him to be “a rigid unbending president.” His reply, in the form of a long, uninterrupted monologue that I assumed reflected Powell’s prepping, stressed that he did not feel superior to others but rather shared their temptations:

“I’ve looked on a lot of women with lust. I’ve committed adultery in my heart many times. This is something that God recognizes that I will do—and I have done it—and God forgives me for it. But that doesn’t mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don’t consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife.”

He concluded: “I don’t think I would ever take on the same frame of mind that Nixon or Johnson did—lying, cheating and distorting the truth. . . I think that my religious beliefs alone would prevent that from happening to me.”

I thought at the time that this attack on the late Lyndon Johnson contained the real news. But it was largely ignored by the media until candidate Carter visited Texas and Lady Bird Johnson refused to greet him at the airport. Reporters, led by the ubiquitous Sam Donaldson, confronted Carter as to the accuracy of the Johnson quote. At first, he said it was taken out of context, until I rushed back to the press plane for the taped interview, which I played for Donaldson and others. Carter recanted and made a formal apology to the late president’s widow. That part of the story dropped out of sight and lust dominated the news for weeks.

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-12-17/local/me-9919_1_jimmy-carter


36 posted on 10/08/2016 8:47:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Voter Fraud:White liberal elites using the Black Underclass to nullify the American people..)
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To: Helicondelta

What Trump said 11 years ago was disturbing and inappropriate. However, If Dr Dobson is correct and Donald Trump accepted Christ as his savior in June and asked for forgiveness; he is now a changed man. Until I know otherwise I will also accept him as having been forgiven.


37 posted on 10/08/2016 8:58:57 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: GOPJ

And so Jimmuh missed a detail. When God forgave Jimmuh, God expected Jimmuh to want to do better and ask God’s help for that purpose. Forgiving isn’t excusing; God forbid that it should ever be that.

The problem was not so much even the lust, as in not seeing the disconnect between it and what God wanted and in not beseeching God’s help to take a better attitude and beat the domination of the lust.


38 posted on 10/08/2016 8:59:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Keen-Minded

It appears that Donald has been moving in this direction for quite a while.

God forgives, but doesn’t excuse. Some sins get Satan embroiled in a life on a more than momentary basis, as he clamors for his old glory in his old stronghold. And a person may yet fail. But even that does not need to be fatal.


39 posted on 10/08/2016 9:01:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Helicondelta
The Dems and MSM saved this October Surprise specifically to derail Evangelical support for Trump. The aim is to dissuade Conservative Christians to stay home on election day, or vote for a third party candidate, not turn them to vote for Clinton. They know the Conservative resolve to stop Hillary, but they believe they can dissuade Conservative Christians to stay home.

The Dems and MSM have spent so much time excusing and covering up for Obamas and Clintons that they shouldn’t have any standing when making accusations.

That being said, any Christian who takes this bait and stays home on election day, or turns to a third party candidate, is begging for our nation to be destroyed on the alter of socialism, liberalism, and hedonism.

Trump recently accepted Christ as Lord. I believe that he has been forgiven for past sins. So should we not also forgive. Satan is the one who constantly brings up past sins to discredit our salvation. He, Satan, loves to declare us as hypocrites for past stands and actions that contradict our current good life.

Other than Hillary and Bill carrying a Bible, have we ever seen any moral or righteous stand by either of them? Have we ever seen any action or verbal expression by either them, or the current occupant of the White House, condemning Islam as Anti-Christ. The fundamental document of Islam declares itself to be Anti-Christ by stating that God cannot have a son.

All Christian of good conscience should look at the actions of the Clintons (actions not words), and the past actions of the liberal, progressive left (actions not words), and recognize how they have been conducting a cultural war on Christianity and Judaism over the last half century.

Our nation cannot be restored until the lawless actions (actions not words), and inaction (failure to enforce laws they disagree with) of the left are reversed, and our American Republic restored.

We are in a political war where the socialist, progressives, atheist, anarchist, and the forces of the Anti-Christ are on one side, and those who support our American Republic and the Judeo-Christian values and beliefs are on the other.

If the enemy wins this battle, our nation will, without revival, fall to a godless coalition that will fight over the remains after destroying ouy Republic.

Yes, we need a revival, but more importantly we need to preserve our nation as that “City On A Hill”, a nation dedicated to those freedoms and rights guaranteed under our Constitution. A government that can only exist when a moral people take a stand, and not abandon that dream exposed by our Founding Fathers. Christians and Jews who believe and accept God’s Word need to stand with our nation and not abandon the one chance to restore our Republic.

The forces that are aligned against us are strong, but we cannot abandon the fight based upon Trump’s past words, spoken during a moment of pride and bravado in private conversation.

We need to recognize that those who make the charges do not have the good of our country in mind, or the preservation of our Republic.

40 posted on 10/08/2016 9:04:43 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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