Posted on 10/04/2016 12:56:04 PM PDT by Kaslin
The Washington version of conservatism is really just liberalism without marijuana. In fact, even that may not be totally ruled out.
I could say also that it is liberalism with lower taxes. Of course, that is just about impossible. One thing liberals have right is that if they are to do what they say they want to do, they will have to raise taxes to do it.
The good old WFB days of knocking down communist straw men won’t return. Communism was dragged bloody from the ring but the new prize fighter is more agile, defining all his positions as proven science or what reasonable people think, just miles beyond awkward old communism which basically said, “okay we are evil and backward but at least we are not Nazis whom we defeated with almost no help from you.”
That worked for a while with stupid people and drug addicts but eventually, even liberals could see it was pointless nonsense when communists had nothing to show for their struggles except Cuba and Vietnam, places that people were so desperate to escape, they risked drowning in shark-infested oceans.
Now we have an opponent who says that we are yesterday’s news and that we don’t get how modern society works. To make that argument a bit easier to make, they change modern society to something that cannot work.
This is rope-a-dope. William F Buckley would have puffed three times on his pipe, laughed ironically, and said to the wrong camera, “you’re kidding, right? I mean, these are idiots. At least Gore Vidal had half my I.Q.”
And he was right.
True. There are freeper conservatives who believe conservative is as conservative does. And there are posers who make up the conservative industry with no effort ever recorded to offer anything other than opinion.
“Trump is no conservative.”
I hear people say that. And yet the Republican Platform for the Trump candidacy is the most conservative in the Party’s history.
So who’s a “conservative?”
Exactly. The “true conservative” is the one the conservatives actually support. Everyone else is full of it.
We’ve built a welfare state over the past 50 years. “Conservatives” didn’t put up much of a fight
We’ve continued unsustainable social welfare programs over the past 50 years, with “Conservative” help
We’ve grown government to an enormous size, we’ve fought wars for Kings overseas, we’ve engaged in nation-building, we’ve wasted countless Trillions of dollars on people who hate us and want to kill us. “Conservatives” were there every step of the way making our government bigger and more invasive and anathema to liberty and freedom.
I’m not sure what anyone has to bitch about when it comes to Trump. There hasn’t been an effective Conservative on the scene in 25 years.
The Conservative Movement died for all intents and purposes when George HW Bush entered the White House in 1989.
Amen brother,that’s the truth. After Reagan ,Goldwater ,Buckley ,there hasn’t been a “conservative” movement,just a whole lot of so called conservatives flapping their gums.
Go back to primary season, and see the bloodbath here among self-described "conservatives" bashing each other and each others candidates. It is ridiculous. The end result of this internecine warfare has been, Romney2012 and Trump2016 nominations, after conservatives exhausted themselves and their band of candidates dropped by the wayide.
True. People sign up for what they think is conservatism and a few years later, the consensus is that conservatism is anything but that.
I disagree with a lot of people who call themselves conservatives, but recognize that they signed on in good faith to what people were calling conservatism at the time.
Conservatism in some ways is as much a mental disorder as liberalism.
I wouldn't go that far, but politics are a dark, confusing forest and it's hard to come up with simple, unambiguous answers to political questions.
Correct me if I'm wrong but from January '03 through January '07, President Bush sat in the White House and Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate.
Four years of unfettered opportunity to roll back decades of liberalism. Did they do anything?
This is why Trump is the nominee.
My 2 votes for Bush-43 is my 2 biggest regrets in presidential voting since 1972. I could never vote for the Rats but should have abstained. Paul Ryan is in the same league, a liberal masquerading as a conservative.
but politics are a dark, confusing forest and it's hard to come up with simple, unambiguous answers to political questions.It's not all political. Some of it is emotional and some of it is religious...but I repeat myself.
I’m probably wrong but I think the divide as described here is a false narrative. I believe the divide disregards the smaller conservative plank issues (gay marriage for instance) and is really globalism vs nationalism. jmo
Yes , exactly ! Plus people woke up to the fact that Americans/America was no longer first.
That said. Since this is a Limbaugh thread... beginning to think he is ‘never Hilary’ more than anything else.
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