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White House Watch: Clinton 42%, Trump 41%, Johnson 7%, Stein 2%
Rasmussen ^ | 9/29/16 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 09/29/2016 5:32:29 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT

Following Monday night’s debate, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are running virtually even in Rasmussen Reports’ first daily White House Watch survey.

Our latest national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Clinton with 42% support to Trump’s 41%. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson earns seven percent (7%) of the vote, while Green Party nominee Jill Stein holds steady at two percent (2%). Three percent (3%) still like some other candidate, and five percent (5%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Trump had been moving ahead over the two previous weeks and held a 44% to 39% lead over Clinton last week at this time. It was the first time he had been ahead since mid-July.

Eighty percent (80%) say they are sure which candidate they will vote for, and among these voters, Clinton and Trump are tied with 48% support each. Among voters who say they could still change their minds, it’s Clinton 34%, Trump 33%, Johnson 25% and Stein 8%.


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To: billyboy15

So nothing but positive posts. Nothing objective. Until I am deemed to be here long enough so you don’t think I’m a troll... does that sound about right?


121 posted on 09/29/2016 7:59:26 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

You stated in a prior post that you have posted here for a long while or words to that effect. Since your registration date is barely 2 weeks this makes you a phony. If you are a phony then your motives are in question, so I guess the real answer to what you ask is this. Post whatever you want to post but don’t expect many to look upon any of it with anything but scorn, a scorn you have brought onto yourself.


122 posted on 09/29/2016 8:05:57 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: MNJohnnie
I looked at the internals to see the D/R splits, and they did seem to be overweighted. Even so, they only moved the needle in Florida and Colorado averages, which is still a big deal.

In my model, it dropped Trump's probability from 44% to 38%.

-PJ

123 posted on 09/29/2016 8:06:07 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: billyboy15
You stated in a prior post that you have posted here for a long while or words to that effect.

Care to back that up? Go ahead

124 posted on 09/29/2016 8:09:02 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

How do you formulate your model?


125 posted on 09/29/2016 8:09:21 AM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: MNJohnnie; navymom1; billyboy15; kabar; NYC-RepublicanCT

NYC-RepublicanCT seems awfully sensitive and very emotional. I guess presidential elections bring out these types of emotions in all of us.


126 posted on 09/29/2016 8:18:08 AM PDT by chris haney (Apache)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT; billyboy15; MNJohnnie; navymom1; kabar

Yes I can prove that “we’re getting into the same trap as past years, picking and choosing polls “ I’ll take that bet!


127 posted on 09/29/2016 8:40:00 AM PDT by chris haney (Apache)
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To: UKrepublican
The basic formula converts a poll into a probability. The probabilities from the set of polls for a state are averaged, giving more weight to recent polls. The final weighted average probabilities for each of the states are used in Monte Carlo simulations of the election. The probability of winning the election is the count of simulations where the candidate won 270 or more Electoral College votes divided by the total number of simulations.

This is essentially the same thing that Nate Silver at 538 does.

-PJ

128 posted on 09/29/2016 8:40:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: chris haney

What’s your point? Like FReepers were the only conservatives that trashed polls in the past?


129 posted on 09/29/2016 8:43:04 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: chris haney

Thank you, I was just getting to giving him the answer.


130 posted on 09/29/2016 8:52:47 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

Literally Aug 30th, not months ago


131 posted on 09/29/2016 9:01:30 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: billyboy15; chris haney

So your wrong interpretation now passes as fact too? Unless you are mods, I have no interest in chatting with you


132 posted on 09/29/2016 9:02:38 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Familiar with the GIGO phenomenon?

Again, most of your data is based on a 2012 turn out model.

Do you fact data like this into your model or just assume a static electorate?

Gallup: Democrats who ‘will definitely vote’ at 16-year low

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gallup-democrats-who-will-definitely-vote-at-16-year-low/article/2602965


133 posted on 09/29/2016 9:21:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

No prob, troll


134 posted on 09/29/2016 9:39:01 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: MNJohnnie
Yes, I'm familiar with it.

The purpose of my model over the years has never been to predict the outcome, as I am not a pollster gathering my own data.

The purpose of my model has always been to reflect back the aggregate implications of the various polls that do exist.

To that end, consider the following:

l. I do not unskew or otherwise adjust poll results based on what I think. I use the data as presented in order for you to draw conclusions. You can reject it out of hand as garbage, or you can isolate the garbage vs. your own perceptions and publicly call out the garbage and shame pollsters into improving their accuracy.

2. Comparing poll ranges is not enough; margin of error must also be factored in. Polls from different states with different MOEs are hard to conceptualize at an aggregate national level without a model like this to normalize the results.

3. Averaging the polls helps smooth the inconsistencies from different polling biases.

4. Tracking the changes over the weeks is valuable information.

You are not on my ping list. You can see my weekly model report here.

-PJ

135 posted on 09/29/2016 9:42:55 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

My take is that Trump is ahead. Oversampling of Dems by 6% should mean ‘The Witch’ should be up by 7.


136 posted on 09/29/2016 2:03:04 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The RELIGION of PEDOPHILIA...)
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To: ConservaTeen

I firmly believe that a more forceful debate performance, coupled with the $140mm in ads that he’s committed to, he’ll be VERY difficult to beat.


137 posted on 09/29/2016 2:37:42 PM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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