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Heading into first debate, Clinton with 6 point lead over Trump: New NBC-WSJ poll
CNBC ^ | September 21, 2016 | John Harwood

Posted on 09/21/2016 3:16:17 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: cdga5for4

NBC’s poll were Garbage during the Primaries, they are Garbage now.


41 posted on 09/21/2016 4:15:46 PM PDT by heights
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To: cdga5for4

. “I just don’t believe that many people are passionate about Donald Trump.”

You are a TRoll


42 posted on 09/21/2016 4:17:37 PM PDT by heights
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To: Mjreagan

I agree. Hillary had a horrible three weeks and the polls swung Trump’s way. The Clinton camp rolled out its birther strategy as its big gambit and events knocked it off the news cycle before it got started.

So now, miraculously, I am to believe that with no change, other than someone insulting skittles, Hillary is ahead in the polls. And just in time for the debate too. What a coincidence!!!

Yes, I’m not disregarding the polls this time but this cycle, given how absolutely deranged the press is, I will maintain a justified and healthy skepticism driven by logic and reason.


43 posted on 09/21/2016 4:18:25 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Trump20162020

“Why does NBC get to have two of its “polls” distorting the RCP national 4-way average? No one pollster there now has Clinton with a greater than 2-point lead”.

Funny, isn’t it


44 posted on 09/21/2016 4:20:31 PM PDT by heights
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To: cdga5for4
I’ve been here for 11 years and you’ve been here since March yet I’m the “troll”?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to FR. I was almost going to vote for Trump, but now that you've pointed out the futility of it all, I'm just going to sit home on election day. Why waste my time? Might as well take those Trump signs off my yard right now.

Everybody, stay home. It's all over. cdga5for4 says it's not worth the risk of having your feelings hurt. Stay home. Accept your fate.

45 posted on 09/21/2016 4:20:42 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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To: DAC21

The bitch ain’t takin NY ...


46 posted on 09/21/2016 4:22:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (FU Klintoons)
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To: cdga5for4

Pray you’re worries don’t materialize. But prepare for the worst. Buy more ammo, vote for Trump, and let the Devil take the hindmost.


47 posted on 09/21/2016 4:25:44 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: cdga5for4

Are you kidding me? Turn out for Trump will be yuge.

Trump supporters, and they are legion, will crawl over cut glass to get to the polls.

Dems are lukewarm on Hillary on her best day. And her best days are the ones on which she doesn’t collapse.


48 posted on 09/21/2016 4:31:05 PM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: Gideon7

Take a look at IL and MI primary results,they were terrible.


49 posted on 09/21/2016 4:33:53 PM PDT by bray (I'm Deplorable)
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To: Trump20162020
Clinton with 6 point lead over Trump              
50 posted on 09/21/2016 4:37:34 PM PDT by tomkat (America OR Hitlary .. can't have the former AND the latter)
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To: cdga5for4
The last two elections people loved or hated Obama and that got people to the polls more so for those that loved him.

The democrats hate Trump more then Bush I think. But they have no liking for Hillary.

Voter enthusiasm is going to make or brake this election.
If this was Sanders vs Trump. Trump would have lost in my opinion.

Notice in this poll. They have 32% that didn't vote in the last election. That says this poll isn't "likely voters" as indicated.

51 posted on 09/21/2016 4:37:52 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: cdga5for4
Monster Vote

will bet the farm on it

52 posted on 09/21/2016 4:39:48 PM PDT by tomkat (America OR Hitlary .. can't have the former AND the latter)
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To: Trump20162020
Same old bs push poll NBC/WSJ tried to use in the primaries showing how bad Trump was supposedly doing. They were wrong with every push poll they released.

NBC Nothing But Clinton instead of news continues with more lies and bs posing as real polling data:

More left wing NBC/WSJ mediots in bed with Clintoon with their latest non poll article sets off massive responses from the BS Meters around America!


53 posted on 09/21/2016 5:05:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illiarily is the mentally ill/staggering/falling/terminal left wing candidate for president!!!)
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To: Trump20162020

Good catch.


54 posted on 09/21/2016 5:16:10 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: LongWayHome

I pointed that out yesterday. They have oversampled Dems in every poll this summer.


55 posted on 09/21/2016 5:18:28 PM PDT by DrDude (This poll)
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To: Trump20162020
Respondents "revealed a hardening of personal dislike and professional uncertainty about Donald Trump," said Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who conducts the NBC/WSJ survey.

Can the Democrat pollster Peter Hart explain why Clinton has 400 people at a her rally and Trump has 35,000 people at his rally? How can this go on for months and months and not reflect itself in the polls?

What is going on here?

The personal dislike and professional uncertainty really do not answer the question. Hillary herself (Nurse Ratchet) and Kaine (Freddie Krueger) are not liked by most people. What about the professional uncertainty associated with all the scandals attached to that pair?

56 posted on 09/21/2016 5:26:42 PM PDT by olezip
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To: DrDude

Yes....and the WSJ/NBC poll has been egregious with this statistical trick. My guess: they are doing this to keep the RCP poll in Clinton’s column.


57 posted on 09/21/2016 5:28:43 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: cdga5for4

I strongly disagree. I’m comparing this election to the last, there are so many levels to look at it.

For one, look at the absolute disinterest shown at Hitlery gatherings, compared to the packed attendances for Trump.

Look at the comments at the end of a typical Youtube or news article that allows comments. They are running 20 - 1 against Hitlery. The obama/Romney election it was about 5 - 4 in favor of obama.

Look at yard signs (I know this is regional), practically no Hitlery signs. Last election, obamas signs were so frequent I could have puked.

Now there’s polling data. There have been articles here on FR where they are now using different methods to achieve more Hitlery favored ratings. Regarding Reagans election, Rush had a small segment where all polling data for Reagan was against him, when in fact he won in a landslide, two of them.

We have neighbors approaching 90, never had internet and rely on MSM for news. They are Trump supporters and donors.

The public is totally fed up with all that’s going on and know the MSM are total liars and the Clintons are criminals.

As a matter of fact, the only real indicator that Clinton will win is what’s spun by the media.

I’m of the belief enough people feel the way I do, that Trump will win, we are not all a bunch of dumbasses.

Many want that old bat to stroke out or cancel the debates. I want her there with full mental capacity so Trump can make her look just like the crook she really is. This is to be the most watched debate in history, this old witch has done everything to avoid questioning by the press, now is the time for all to see just what she is.

No sir, Trump will win, and BIG!.


58 posted on 09/21/2016 5:53:00 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: cdga5for4

“I just don’t think most people really like either of these candidates so they are voting against a candidate, rather than for one.”

Your TDS is showing.


59 posted on 09/21/2016 5:59:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illiarily is the mentally ill/staggering/falling/terminal left wing candidate for president!!!)
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To: goldstategop

Amen!

NBC-WSJ

The gold standard of liars’ polling.

You can stop reading there.

Whenever we see the NBC/WSJ, past history says, “Don’t Bother!”


60 posted on 09/21/2016 6:01:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illiarily is the mentally ill/staggering/falling/terminal left wing candidate for president!!!)
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