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New York State Is Perfecting Its Taxpayer Repellent
Townhall.com ^ | September 21, 2016 | Seton Motley

Posted on 09/21/2016 12:15:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

Government at all levels has been for a century-plus grossly over-involved in, well, everything.  For this particular exercise, let us look at the energy sector.  Behold the myth that is “green energy.”

“Green energy” is - nigh totally - neither green, nor energy.  Most sources - wind, solar, ethanol and bio-,… - expend as much or more traditional energy to produce as they eventually provide.  And their production and utilization are in many instances much more anti-planet than demonized traditional sources.   

And unlike traditional sources, “green energy” requires government money.  Lots and LOTS of government money.  Subsidies to the tune of tens (hundreds?) of billions of dollars over the last few decades.

Which violates several of life’s maxims.

1) If something is a good idea - no government money is necessary.  No one needs to subsidize ice cream.

2) Government money doesn't help - it warps.  Our decades of tilting at ethanol windmills have done virtually nothing to improve either ethanol or the energy sector.  It has dramatically increased the price we pay at the gas pump - and the price of food all over the planet.  As we bizarrely burn food for fuel.   

3) Government doesn’t pick winners and losers - it picks losers at the expense of winners.  To get the huge subsidy coin for ethanol (and solar, and wind, and…), government takes it from energy companies that produce, you know, actual energy.  And it takes from all the rest of us taxpayers…to hand to these energy losers.

Get all that?  We are taxed ever more on the front end - to pay ever higher prices on the back end.  Outstanding policy, is it not?   

New York State has been involved in this “green energy” nonsense for years and years.  And they are about to swan dive into the kiddie pool

“The state’s Public Service Commission (PSC) earlier Monday passed a new set of standards that by 2030 is supposed to ensure that half of New York’s energy needs are met by renewable methods.…

“As of 2015, New York only generated 11 percent of its energy via renewables. A tally it has taken them decades - and tens of billions of subsidy dollars - to attain. And now they have mandated a nearly 500 percent increase - in only fifteen years. Predicated, again, upon energy sources that require massive, ongoing government cash infusions - and in most instances take more energy to produce than they provide.

“The New York State mandate is a VERY expensive proposition - that will do great and lasting damage to its economy.”

It is such a bad idea - even some New York Democrats have questions.

“A Sept. 7 letter to PSC - signed by Assembly members James Brennan, Amy Paulin, Jeffrey Dinowitz, Steve Englebright and Charles Lavine - groused about the $965 million in state aid that will go to help maintain the James A. Fitzpatrick Nuclear Power Plant and Nine Mile Point Nuclear Generating Station outside Oswego and the R.E. Ginna plant east of Rochester. Exelon Corp. currently owns Nine Mile and R.E. Ginna; it is in the process of purchasing Fitzpatrick, which the current owner, Entergy, had flagged for closure last year before the state stepped in.

“The lawmakers called on the PSC to make public the full analysis of costs Exelon will face to run the plants, and ask the panel to re-determine the rate increases that downstate power consumers will have to pay to support the subsidies.”

Please note: This is not to say nuclear energy is a bad idea.  This is to say government-funded nuclear energy is a bad idea.  Especially so when that government money will warp the entire state sector - in typical loser-at-the-expense-of-winner fashion.

“Democratic state lawmakers…(argue) that downstate energy consumers bore a disproportionate burden of the cost of state subsidies that will support three upstate nuclear power plants under the state’s Clean Energy Standard Program.”

And this is where it gets bizarrely goofy - as only government really can.

“(S)tate Public Service Commission Chairwoman Audrey Zibelman…made the case that the state’s carbon reduction plan was a statewide effort with a global goal of fighting climate change….’While none of us want to increase electric prices, compared to the cost of climate change that we have already experienced in the State, this is a very modest burden.’”

You want “very modest?”  That would be this economic-suicide plan’s impact on the global climate.  This is a single state.  One of the fifty United States.  Which is one of the three countries in North America.  Which is one of the seven continents on the globe - made up of almost two hundred countries.

To put this ridiculousness into even more of its ridiculous perspective:

“The planet is home to some 7.4 billion people - who generated in 2014 a Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of $77.6 trillion. New York State’s population is 19.7 million - and their 2015 GDP was $1.4 trillion.

“So New York’s GDP - is 1.8% of the world’s. Which means its global carbon footprint - is microscopic. If everyone in New York stopped doing any and everything - the impact on the world’s climate would be, for all intents and purposes, NIL.”

The only thing “modest” about New York’s “green energy” inanity - is its impact on climate change.

There’s absolutely nothing “modest” about the state trying to subsidize-and-mandate its way to a nigh fivefold increase in fake “green energy” marketshare.  

And to do it, the state government is “modest-ing” its taxpayers, energy sector and entire economy to death. 

Study Finds New York Losing the Most Tax Payers: “The drumbeat of people leaving New York state goes on, a new finding shows, with the equivalent of the populations of Columbia and Washington counties heading for warmer, less costly and lower-taxed Sunbelt states in 2014.  Out-migration is nothing new, but two demographers recently updated the statistical portrait of the trend, and it's eye-opening.  The Empire State lost 126,000 tax filers in 2014 to other states, the largest number among all 50 states….”

I’m sure this new, all-encompassing government inanity will really help with that.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; greenenergy; solar; wind

1 posted on 09/21/2016 12:15:53 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A quibble or two — fuel ethanol corn isn’t food grade corn any more than whales are anybody’s seafood dinner (unless you’re an Eskimo). What is being burned here isn’t exactly food. But one might still reasonably ask what else could be done with the land on which that corn is grown. And whether this is saving energy imports, at the least?


2 posted on 09/21/2016 12:26:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin
And unlike traditional sources, “green energy” requires government money. Lots and LOTS of government money.

Bingo. It was and is a looting mechanism for opportunists and politicians (but I repeat myself).

3 posted on 09/21/2016 12:26:41 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Kaslin

I compare NY State to the former East Germany. Its a large, one-party government, ruled from elsewhere (NY City and Albany), that follows a very leftist-ideological line. Nothing happens in NY State without several layers of bureaucracy agreeing on it. Government serves mainly its own interests, and its elites, while bankrupting the rest of society. The only choice, like East Germany, is to escape to the West, leaving failing, empty, poor towns across the State.

NY ever-increasingly depends on Wall Street and printed, fiat-mony to survive, to the detriment of everything else in the State.


4 posted on 09/21/2016 12:33:15 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

I wonder how much ‘cellulosic biofuel’ New York expects to include in this ‘green energy’ mandate? That is the stuff that the EPA used to fine fossil fuel providers for not adding into their stocks, the stuff that nobody had ever seen outside the laboratories. The stuff made by sprinkling pixie dust on ground-up weeds and sawdust!


5 posted on 09/21/2016 12:34:28 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What is being burned here isn’t exactly food. But one might still reasonably ask what else could be done with the land on which that corn is grown.

No - it is absolutely is food. Corn starch is made into sugar (fructose) or is fermented into many food products (or ethanol). Corn germ is pressed into corn oil. The pericarp, or the entire grain, is simply fed to animals to make protein food for humans. As you point out, take out the energy-negative ethanol demand, and you have land for soy, wheat, or plain old vegetables (which increasingly are grown in Mexico, Chile or China anyway).

6 posted on 09/21/2016 12:39:13 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ethanol is the absolute worst thing for an internal combustion engine. Grow people food or animal food on the land. Sell the surplus crops overseas.
You can’t pipeline ethanol. Fleets of polluting trucks are needed.

There is NO anthropomorphic GoreBull Worming.
The Marxists need useful idiots to champion their cause and they have found them in droves, in the ‘green’ movement.


7 posted on 09/21/2016 12:39:21 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

must read later ping


8 posted on 09/21/2016 12:40:53 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Kaslin
’While none of us want to increase electric prices, compared to the cost of climate change that we have already experienced in the State, this is a very modest burden.’

Like the money already wasted to combat "climate change"? How much more money and damage to the economy will they cause before they finally realize that humans cannot control the weather, regardless of how much money they throw at it?

May I suggest that an equally effective, but far less expensive, option would be to send these "climate change" fanatics out to conduct rain dances.

9 posted on 09/21/2016 1:20:50 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kaslin

My mom moved away in 1978.

As for energy, I think New York State tried something a few decades back that made electricity much more expensive in the state. I think the state mandated Niagara Mohawk buy really expensive electricity. The end result was new manufacturing was generally priced out of upstate New York.

And there was the Long Island Illuminating(?) fiasco. I think kilowatt hours on Long Island are the most expensive in the USA.


10 posted on 09/21/2016 1:37:46 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin

It makes far more sense for the developing world to use solar cells.

The sun is generally brighter near the Equator and there isn’t already a fully-developed power industry.

By forcing the purchase of solar cells for use in New York, the state is depriving poorer people in Third World countries of the solar cells they need.


11 posted on 09/21/2016 1:41:44 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Hell I left in 1980


12 posted on 09/21/2016 4:32:49 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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