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How Trump Could Win The White House While Losing The Popular Vote
FiveThirtyEight ^ | September 15, 2016 | David Wasserman

Posted on 09/15/2016 11:28:47 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt

...there is an unusually high chance Donald Trump could win the Electoral College while losing the popular vote — basically, Democrats’ version of the apocalypse.

Here’s why: Several of Trump’s worst demographic groups happen to be concentrated in states, such as California, New York, Texas and Utah, that are either not competitive or that aren’t on Trump’s must-win list. Conversely, whites without a college degree — one of Trump’s strongest groups — represent a huge bloc in three blue states he would need to turn red to have the best chance of winning 270 electoral votes: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania....

Using a prototype of a demographic election calculator that FiveThirtyEight will be unveiling in the next few weeks, I decided to simulate a few election scenarios. Starting with 2012 results as a baseline and adjusting for demographic changes over the past four years, I tested what the map would look like if African-American turnout dipped, GOP support among college-educated whites and Latinos slightly declined, and noncollege whites rallied to Trump in large numbers....

The result? Clinton would carry the popular vote by 1.5 percentage points. However, Trump would win the Electoral College with 280 votes by holding all 24 Romney states and flipping Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa and Maine’s 2nd Congressional District from blue to red. And the real disparity between the electoral and popular votes could be larger, because this model doesn’t even factor in Trump’s Mormon problem.

Don’t get me wrong: This scenario is still very unlikely. But its potential to plunge an already fraught election into absolute chaos means it shouldn’t be discounted, either.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; clinton; election; elections; electoralcollege; hillary; popularvote; trump
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To: FenwickBabbitt

CA and one or two others could turn out to be the freaks of the country who side with corrupt habitual liars. All that will do is prove what is already known about certain states.


21 posted on 09/15/2016 11:48:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FenwickBabbitt
... this model doesn’t even factor in Trump’s Mormon problem.

Not so sure about that. Trump had a "Romney" problem, and Romney is looking more and more stupid by the day. As we get closer to the general election, Trump is surging in Utah and Nevada, and it looks like Romney is having a Mormon problem.

22 posted on 09/15/2016 11:53:39 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: FenwickBabbitt

The popular vote is not going to be a problem.


23 posted on 09/15/2016 11:55:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Rise)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Trump is leading Hillary by 15 points in Utah...

The problem Utah has is Romney, and they have pretty much shut him up...


24 posted on 09/15/2016 11:56:20 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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To: Liz

BTTT


25 posted on 09/15/2016 11:58:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Once again showing the genius of the Founding Fathers....


26 posted on 09/15/2016 12:02:33 PM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Hey Wasserman, know what they call the candidate with 270 EV?

And Wasserman, know what they call the candidate who wins the popular vote without 270 EV”s.

Mr. President and Loser, respectively.


27 posted on 09/15/2016 12:04:01 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Amazing to think that if he keeps the Romney states and flips Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Iowa he wins. Pennsylvania is a huge cornerstone state, if the GOP can put that state in the red column, everything changes in terms of national elections.


28 posted on 09/15/2016 12:04:10 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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Popular Vote means nothing, Democrats pad millions of votes from 2 States CA & NY


29 posted on 09/15/2016 12:04:32 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: Kozak

It would be wonderful if Trump won only the Electoral College. Make the Rats riot. Feed their sense of victimhood/unfairness.


30 posted on 09/15/2016 12:08:19 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: AndyTheBear; All

“Moral of the story: Do not give a damn about any reports before or after election night...get out and vote!”

*Vote Early, Vote Often*

*BUMP*


31 posted on 09/15/2016 12:08:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Gee, wasn’t it last week when a headline said that Trump could win the popular vote and lose the White House?


32 posted on 09/15/2016 12:15:54 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Fido969
We’d never hear the end of it. “The minority President”

Like Slick Willie was? Didn't hear much about that!

33 posted on 09/15/2016 12:17:54 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: FenwickBabbitt
How Trump Could Win The White House While Losing The Popular Vote

I'd almost like to see that just to watch the Democrats and Hillary Clinton go into fit of rage, pull their hair out, throw tantrums and scream about how they was "robbed". (but the more sensible part of knows it would be better if Trump won in a landslide).

34 posted on 09/15/2016 12:23:18 PM PDT by apillar
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To: FenwickBabbitt

While we’re talking about unlikely scenarios, I’d like to discuss my winning the powerball and having Taylor Swift hire on as my personal masseuse. That’s about as likely of a scenario as the one Nate is outlining. He must get paid by the word.


35 posted on 09/15/2016 12:27:18 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Make phone calls. Knock on doors. Write letters. Or wake to a nightmare in November)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

We keep on forgetting who is presently in the WH. Hussein can still create serious havoc during the elections. He has no intention to peacefully give up his job.


36 posted on 09/15/2016 12:35:59 PM PDT by 353FMG (AMERICA MATTERS)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

SO now instead of saying that Trump would win the popular vote but lose the electoral college, they are now saying he wins the electoral but loses the popular.

Trump has them bumfuzzled

Ignore all media

Get Out The Vote


37 posted on 09/15/2016 12:36:36 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Fido969
We’d never hear the end of it. “The minority President”

With Johnson and Stein, he likely won't crack 50%, so he might wind up being the "plurality president". Even Reagan got only 51% in his electoral landslide thanks to John B. Anderson.

Bill Clinton only got 43%, but he was treated as if he were swept in on a huge tidal wave, thanks to George the Elder's dismal performance.
38 posted on 09/15/2016 12:45:35 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Redmen4ever
There is nothing wrong with the Electoral College as designed. Like the rest of government, it has been corrupted from its noble purpose.

Donald Trump: The Echo of Our Framers Uncorrupted President.

39 posted on 09/15/2016 1:16:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Setup for the “Trump stole the election” meme.


40 posted on 09/15/2016 1:20:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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