Posted on 09/03/2016 7:10:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
I have done some research and NO authentic Torah-oriented website gives any credence or play to this story. Only Messyonic “jews” and non-Jews are giving it any play. So I am ignoring it as another religion-grab attempt not representing Torah-true Judaism. Only paltry would-be substitutes like Messyonic chazerei.
WTF, dude?
I would ask the same except not being so vulgar.
Ma’am, it isn’t a CHRISTIAN doctrine that a sinless mortal life can begin on this earth. At best, sin in lives still on earth can be largely, but won’t be completely, dampened out by the Savior. Because love, the only thing that can perfect fealty to the Lord, is not complete until arrival in heaven. Mainstream “Messianic Jewish” claims (e.g. Jews for Jesus) would not even look like this.
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Why would God suspend the two atomic bombs in mid - air for two weeks— and then have them fall on Haifa and Tel Aviv? This makes no sense and doesn’t portray God in a very good manner. ( if He’s gonna jntervene, why wouldn’t he just destroy the bombs?)
Messianic Jews recognize that He indwells each and every believer during the Church Age by His volition (Sovereignty).
You are correct. It isn’t His Temple, unless He dwells there and that is His choice.
Because Haifa and Tel Aviv are secular. The end of the secular age is close at hand.
Go talk to Rabbi Richman at the Temple Institute.
I see. The posting has G-d taking control of the atomic bombs and then He drops them on the two cities. This seems In opposition to His justice and mercy ( for He was willing to spare sodom and Gomorrah but for a small handful of righteous— and certainly there are many more righteous in tel Aviv and Haifa !). I respectfully don’t see this detail of the prophecy happening. Best, fhc
We will see what happens when ww3 breaks out.
1. A post Biblical “prophecy” by a Rabbi is nice, but ll the prophecies needed to explain what is going on here are already in the Word; the Word which IS God and the Word “which was made Flesh and dwelt among us” (Christ).
2. Christianity IS Jewish
3. There is no way to take back the Holy Spirit being freely given At Pentecost to all who ask Him and stuff it back into a physical place in the Holiest of Holies...
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... so anyone attempting to redo archaic ritual is plum-out-of-luck, because God has moved on!
4. The 6 inch thick “laminated” linen curtain that was like 10 or 12 feet tall, and protected the Holiest of Holies in the Temple? It was already torn supernaturally when Jesus was on the Cross. God did that to let the Sadducees and Pharisees know that His Spirit was GONE and the New Covenant, that all of the Old Covenant Prophets foresaw — was now coming into being.
IOW, and again, there is just no way to stuff God's Holy Spirit back into a physical place in the Temple.
Though Satan, as it says in the Word, will perform great miracles in and around the old Temple and Jerusalem to deceive “even the elect” if possible as the promised “Great Delusion”will delude most people... this is the great Delusion that God will send on those who “no longer love the truth”
Some Christian readings, at least, of O.T. prophecy (independent of the rabbinical takes) expect physical, even though still symbolic, sacrifices to be going on in the future, to mark the salvific sacrificial work of Jesus, pointing backward to it rather than forward.
It’s in this context that I would expect temple activity “would” occur.
Also according to such readings, Jewish and Christian practice will eventually merge. The two independent threads will rejoin.
I do not agree with the activities of Rabbi Richman. We have not yet been told to prepare for the Third Temple nor given any guidance for its structure. To assume is a major chutzpah. The websites touting this are evangelist, not Jewish.
He’s not a Christian and he doesn’t teach Christianity.
In 1967 why didn’t Jews after taking the Temple Mount area set up shop and re-build the Temple? Because no one was ready to deal with all of the halachot in regards to it.
From that time to now a lot of preparation has been done. How a Third Temple will come about only HaShem knows. If Jews try and do it without His permission it won’t happen.
Which will happen as soon as obama’s Iranian nuclear icbm’s are fully deployed
Good afternoon.
I must have missed something.
“Christians and Muslims are going to be very angry when the messiah turns out to be neither Christian nor Muzzie.”
Of course, everyone knows the Messiah is Jewish.
The Muslims will figure it out when He comes back.
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1. How did this rabbi know that the Turks would occupy Jerusalem for 400 years which did occur from 1517 to 1917? What you say about the Torah is based on Christianity, not Judaism.
How does Christianity reconcile these passages from the Tanach with how Jews define who God is - a Spirit, non-corporeal?
Numbers 23:19
“God is not a man that He should lie, nor is He a mortal that He should relent. Would He say and not do, speak and not fulfill?”
1 Samuel 15:29
“And also, the Strength of Israel will neither lie nor repent, for He is not a man to repent.”
1 Kings 8:27
“But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain You; much less this temple that I have erected.”
Isaiah 57:15
“For so said the High and Exalted One, Who dwells to eternity, and His name is Holy, “With the lofty and the holy ones I dwell, and with the crushed and humble in spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble and to revive the heart of the crushed.”
And even from the Christians replacement Torah (the New Testament) you have this verse which defines who God is.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
2. Christianity is a religion that syncretized Western paganism and Judaism.
3. Not sure what you mean putting God back in a physical place. He is not limited by time nor space since He isn’t physical so everyone still has access to Him no matter what before or after Pentecost. God moved on? So what you are saying is that He changes His mind and is capricious in nature? His laws and rules aren’t the same and change constantly? What about your replacement Torah in Hebrews 13:8 which says, “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.”
4. I’ll let you in on a little secret about the Holy of Holies. The Spirit of God did not dwell there in the 2nd Temple period, but only during the first. Go back and read Ezra 3:12 which says, “But many of the older priests and Levites and family heads, who had seen the former temple, wept aloud when they saw the foundation of this temple being laid, while many others shouted for joy.” Why did they cry? Because during the first Temple period God’s presence was palpable and the miracles were open and easy to see. During the second Temple that was gone.
On this webpage http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48938582.html it talks about the 2nd Temple saying
“The intense spiritually of the First Temple cannot be compared to the Second. The constant open miracles are gone. Prophecy will also disappear during the early years of the second Temple. The Ark of the Covenant is gone; and although there is a Holy of Holies, it stands empty.”
The only sacrifice that will be given at the Third Temple will be the grain offering. Read Malachi 3:4 “Then the grain-offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to God as in the days of old and as in former years”
How the 3rd Temple will be built and by whom and when it will happen is speculation, but the Prophet Ezekiel in chapters 40 through 42 that God has promised it will be. And when it is built the Spirit of God will shine even greater than in the first Temple. The Jewish holidays will still be around and celebrated.
What happens when the messiah says that Christianity and Islam are false religions? Then they WILL get upset!
“What happens when the messiah says that Christianity and Islam are false religions?”
Imho, if you have a personal relationship with Jesus, you’re good to go.
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