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1 posted on 09/01/2016 1:20:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I wonder if the 2 Incan homos in the story were, as boys, raped by older men or boys as most homosexuals self-report.

I sure their adobe looks FABULOUS, and has attractive window treatments.


2 posted on 09/01/2016 1:29:44 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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Well, if Diamond, Breedlove and Villain don’t convince you...
(OK, there’s only one “l” in “Vilain.)


3 posted on 09/01/2016 1:30:07 PM PDT by dangus
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Putting things a bit more straightforwardly: Identical twins share the same genes and the same womb, and yet when one is gay, the other is usually straight.

Seems NOT complicated.

“If they were doing it in their own rooms we wouldn’t mind, but when they go for children, that’s not fair."

Just common sense.

4 posted on 09/01/2016 1:30:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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oh for the love of God

two words

anne heche


6 posted on 09/01/2016 1:35:41 PM PDT by stylin19a
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The binary argument of nature vs. nurture is false.

“No one chooses what they desire.”

The whole argument presented here is to use sleight of hand to distract from the role of choice.

It is IRRELEVANT if no one chooses what they desire. People choose to do and say things. They choose to think or contemplate certain ideas. Many of these choices are selections from what is made available by nurture or nature, yet they are still choices.

For example, a child who grows up in a brothel will be forced to make a different set of choices from a child who is born into a missionary family.

So, while it may be true that people do not “choose to be homosexual”, it is also true that choice plays a major role in sexuality. And that choice is much bigger than these scientists are willing to admit.


7 posted on 09/01/2016 1:40:29 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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‘Beasts of the forest’ pretty much says it all.


8 posted on 09/01/2016 1:51:00 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Choice is choice is choice. Period. People choose to be homosexual. Being black, on the other hand, is innate and immutable, and homosexuals dishonestly try to compare their choice with black innateness. But you find former homosexuals. You’ll never find a former black.


9 posted on 09/01/2016 1:54:48 PM PDT by afsnco
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No one is born gay. There is no gay gene.


11 posted on 09/01/2016 2:11:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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Animals have homosexual BEHAVIOR they are not gay. I saw a male dog trying to have sex with another male dog but it was, i am certain, because there wasn’t a female available.
I think it is basically the same for humans. A kid is curious or has urges he hasn’t mastered, so to speak, or he/she is vulnerable and approached by a older person of the same sex . Do not believe they are born that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior


12 posted on 09/01/2016 2:33:36 PM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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The fallacy of this argument lies in its use of the "to be" verb -- that fags "are" something and heteros (i.e., normal people) "are" something else.

I am not my sex. I am not a sex organ or a sexual activity. Those are things I DO. Those are things I HAVE. Fags do fag things; that's what makes them fags, not the fact that they "are" fags. Meanwhile, heteros do other things, the things normal people do (albeit some with more regularity than others). That's what makes them normal.

If a person who claimed to "be" a fag stopped doing faggot stuff, he'd stop "being" a fag. It's really pretty simple.

13 posted on 09/01/2016 2:39:07 PM PDT by IronJack
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Interesting. The existence of identical twins, one gay, one straight, both raised in the same family and same way, disproves every theory out there, especially born that way.


14 posted on 09/01/2016 4:01:10 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Is the author a faggot? How does “not born this way” not equal chosen?


15 posted on 09/02/2016 12:25:32 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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I don’t buy that you can’t modify your desires.


17 posted on 09/02/2016 11:32:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Great article.

Dealing with pre-orientation children who tend to prefer the playthings or dress of the other gender, it’s important to know that this is not a choice. Nor caused by parents. A two year old cannot will what he wills.


18 posted on 09/02/2016 11:31:42 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberals, you're not tolerant unless you are comfortable with diversity of opinion.)
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There’s scant evidence, contra Musevoeni’s claims, that homosexual people “recruit” otherwise-straight children into their subculture, or that sexuality is otherwise socially learned.

I really didn't see this aspect approached, at least in this article. Because some guys raised as girls were still male oriented doesn't mean that normal male children who have been sexually used by adult homosexuals will not become male oriented in their sexual preferences. Once they become sexually oriented to males their whole physiology changes. Also, how they relate to the idea of who they are on a very deep level has become compromised. This is why any kind of sexual compromise of an innocent child is so devastating to a child's self image and to how they process who they are sexually.

19 posted on 09/03/2016 4:49:50 PM PDT by Bellflower (Dems = Mat 6:23 ....If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)
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“There’s scant evidence, contra Museveni’s claims, that homosexual people “recruit” otherwise-straight children into their subculture, or that sexuality is otherwise socially learned”

Lost me here. That evidence is everywhere and they’d have seen it if they’d put down the lavender colored glasses.

Also no one seems concerned with life events of people who start, as children, to exhibit traits that later present as homosexual behavior. It’s a huge, gaping hole in this “research”.

The activists have pretty much trashed the field of mainstream psychology anyway, so I avoid their biased writings when I am looking for honest answers. The ex gays I have read about say that you can collect much more than “scant” data by covertly visiting a gay bar and asking the guys there what their childhood was like. Almost everyone who’ll talk about it admits to being abused, coerced, preyed upon and/or lied to. Perhaps this “smorgasbord” of distinguished psychology experts should be seeing how the algorithm changes when they throw that set of circumstances in.


20 posted on 09/04/2016 9:56:50 PM PDT by mom of young patriots
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