Indeed they are. But if Trump pulls 60% of the popular vote on top of that so much the better.
Posted on 08/25/2016 5:12:10 AM PDT by Scooter100
Reagan won over Carter in the "so-called" landslide of 1980. In fact, Reagan took 50.7%, to Carter's 41%....not exactly a landslide in my books.
The interesting thing is that the voter turnout for that election was 52.6%. Even for then, that is a lot of humanity "under the covers". Roughly half were untapped. This essentially means that a minority of 25% of the country set policy (for the untapped) for four years.
The untapped half is growingly aware that the voting half of the country is basically divided in two, politically, between two dinosaurs. England's Brexit was a cannon-shot over the bows of the dinosaur fleet. The untapped anti-establishment spoke, and spoke big time. It was the anti-elite, anti-IMF, Nigel Farage who reached those voters.
This is why it was so significant that Trump brought Farage to the stage in Jackson, Miss. yesterday. Contrary to media thinking, Trump is the anti-establishment candidate. Trump's great support will come from the untapped, and he will ride their wave of anti-establishment into the WH.
How do you reach the un-tapped half? You let guys like Nigel Farage speak. His speech was short, but cut to the heart of the Trump movement. Watch it several times...it's the key to reaching the untapped.
Trump introduces Farage at time: 1:08:00 into the clip. Don't miss Nigel, a great speaker.
Trump with Farage, Jackson, Miss., 24 Aug/16
TRUMP/Pence--2016
I believe landslides are determined by electoral votes (370?), not voter turnout.
You are right, of course. It was an electoral landslide, but most don’t think of that when they associate Reagan with a landslide win.
Did you watch the Farage speech? That’s the point of my post.
He's not used to the rally crowds here, lets them roar over one of his lines, but not twice. A fast learner obviously. Great speech. Music.
I think/hope you are correct.
I followed the polls for Brexit...not as closely as for the US presidential election, for sure. But I do remember distinctly that some of the final numbers (I forget which outfits of course) showed leave within the MOE, like two points down. I remember distinctly being very pleased with that, as I felt like leave had a lot of momentum for the future and that the EU was still going to be injured.
Then leave won by 4...which was a huge surprise.
So I think Farage saying that they were down by ten is a bit of an exaggeration for dramatic effect, and no doubt there were some polls which were saying that day of. I think the polling was closer....but nothing was anywhere near a 4 point leave victory at least not that I can remember.
Which is a long winded of saying, that I think you and Farage are spot on.
Trump is within 4 in the RCP average for a 4 person race. That is awesome improvement over the last few weeks. If he can begin to move the needle a little bit state by state....then all of a sudden, this starts to look a whole lot like Brexit...and the timing couldn’t be more perfect!
Many of the Farage speech YouTube’s are cut off at the end. The end is where he says how to win. The media has been cutting that off. You have to watch his FULL comments, and they are in my posted URL.
Indeed they are. But if Trump pulls 60% of the popular vote on top of that so much the better.
Did you watch the Farage speech? If you haven’t you really need to. I think it is an important key to Trump winning.
The United States presidential election of 1980 was the 49th quadrennial presidential election. .... Muskie was polling even with Ronald Reagan at the time,
Did you watch the Farage speech? I don’t give a damn about Muskie.
Agree. Further, when he starts hitting her about the corruption, and pointing things out like how poor Haitians were thrown under the bus while the Clintons and their foundation raked in money, there will be movement of the usual democrat demographics away from her and to Trump. It doesn't have to be a lot. Even a few percentage points can make a huge overall difference.
This is like a title fight in which biased ringside announcers are seeing a different fight, and despite their best efforts to make it seem like their fighter is winning, their fighter (Hillary) has taken many shots, is becoming increasingly vulnerable in the middle rounds, and unlikely to do well in the later rounds.
The key point here is the importance of getting those untapped voters to turn out in November and carry Trump to victory.
TRUMP/Pence--2016
Prior UK nonvoters came out to vote for BREXIT.
Ours is much the same decision about ubergovernment this election.
I was only 13 when that election occurred. I was in Connecticut and the area where I grew up was heavily Democratic, white and unionized. A good many of them voted for Reagan because they felt Carter and the Democrats took their vote for granted, and of course we had a lousy national economy too. All this sound familiar? The similiar events are happening today. I won’t predict a similiar election for Trump. The nation’s demographics have changed quite a bit since 1980 so states like Colorado and New Mexico are now Democratic leaning states because of the Latino vote, when they were in the past solidly Republican. It is white working class Americans mostly in the Rust Belt who will play a big part in this election. They are being ignored again by the Democratic Party and will vote in significant numbers for Trump.
Yes, I know. I just saw one on Facebook that was only 54 seconds long—the beginning and the end only. I commented that 88,000 people had watched a butchered version, and I posted the real one in the Comments section.
Did you watch the Farage speech? Do it!
Trump introduces Farage at time: 1:08:00 into the clip. Don't miss Nigel, a great speaker.
Trump with Farage, Jackson, Miss., 24 Aug/16
TRUMP/Pence--2016
I don’t think the one I posted in Reply 5 has been cut. They missed the first sentence, where he greets Mississippi.
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