Posted on 08/22/2016 4:15:58 PM PDT by Hojczyk
Via Hennesseys View:
You probably remember that in September 1980 voters were couldnt wait to cast a vote for Reagan.
If you remember it like that, you remember wrong. At least a little wrong.
TIME magazine examined voter sentiment in its September 15, 1980, issue. Voters that year sounded a lot like voters this year. Heres how Ed Magnuson summarized the voters of 1980:
Disenchanted, but not apathetic. Caring about issues, although much more concerned about character. Longing for a strong person to trust, but fearful of strength lacking sound judgment. Leery of weakness, but edgy about brashness. All too mindful of the disappointments of the past, but seeking hope in the future. Leaning toward one man, but often out of desperation and a sense of disdain for the others. Uncommitted. Unpredictable.
1980, people knew Carter was weak and bumbling, but they were afraid Reagan might blow up the world. In 2016, we know Clinton is crooked and sickly, and some people are afraid Trump might blow up the world. (In fact, almost every Republican candidate since Goldwater was supposed to blow up the world. That charge is getting pretty stale.)
The Numbers Are Remarkably Similar
When you look at the numbers from about the same period, you find incredible similarities between Clinton vs. Trump and Carter vs. Reagan. Since Rasmussen is the only major public poll looking at likely voters (as opposed to registered voters), well use that.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online White House Watch survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows Clinton with 41% support to Trumps 39%. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson picks up nine percent (9%) of the vote, while Green Party nominee Jill Stein trails with three percent (3%). Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.
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That's a YUGE problem. Interest rates CANNOT stay at these levels. A 2.5% 10YR US T-Note would be a shock to the system.
IMHO this problem is more dangerous than terrorism.
Pete Wilson was the last GOP senator. I think his term ended in 2000.
We were pretty F—ked up in 1980 too... young people thought we were done. They had never known anything different.
they are both democrats. I beleive the last Republican CA senator was Pete Wilson.
Im pretty sure that Trump, as a share of population size at the time, got a higher % of primary votes than Reagan did.
Nope. Reagan 59.8% Trump 44.9%.
Reagan ran against 2 others, GHWB & John (a bad joke) Anderson.
Trump against 16? 17? That discrepancy would impact the difference in percentages towards Trump closing that gap and support the contention of the subject.
No, you’re judging by Reagan’s total of the GOP primary.
I said, “as a percentage of population.” Reagan had 7.7m out of 226.5m for .34% of the US population, while Trump, at 13m out of a population of 324m had 4% of the US population.
Nobody made any headway but Reagan and Bush (and Anderson), so the others exited early on.
That was one of many signs that the party was more united behind Reagan in 1980 than it is behind Trump now.
The bottom line is that a majority of primary voters cast their ballot for Reagan in 1980.
No candidate got a majority in the primaries this time (there may be some caucus votes in the totals, but I don't think that changes the overall picture).
I'm not putting Donald Trump down. I'm just suggesting we tone down the exaggerated claims and flawed comparisons.
That doesn't mean a greater percentage of voters favored Trump this time than favored Reagan in 1980.
Trump won more votes in Republican primaries than Republican candidate before him.
He also had more primary votes cast against him than any Republican nominee before him.
That doesn't add up to a convincing picture of party unity.
Again, I don't want to take away from Trump's achievement, but Reagan's was greater and more significant.
Still, he got more votes and he got more % of votes as a % of population. Hard to argue.
We’ve been through this before. All of the other candidates had even MORE votes cast against THEM than Trump, because He Won.
Not only is Hillary more sickly but we can expect major releases of email hacked by the Russians that could very well derail her.
Gary Johnson is being primed to fill the John Anderson role this year.
The media wanted Carter re-elected so, so badly.
Check out the cover of TV Guide for Election week. They put John Anderson at the very top!
Three events will turn this election around — debate one, debate two and somebody phoning in sick to avoid debate three.
We are still living in the aftershocks and repercussions of what that man unleashed upon the earth. To think he still walks it.
Trump is the Second Reagan. I loved and supported President Reagan, dittoes for President Trump.
I remember 1980 well. In fact, I remember September 15, 1980, very well. I cut class at Georgetown to go to the Capitol to see Reagan, Bush and all of the Republican candidates for Congress.
Several friends and I managed to cut in front of a lot of others to the rope line right in front of the podium, and watched the speeches, culminating in Reagan’s. He then came around with Bush, shaking hands, etc. I wished him good luck and, while he was shaking my hand, an old lady next to me fainted. We kept shaking for about 10 seconds until others revived her. So I remember the day very well.
BTW, there was VERY great enthusiasm for Reagan among many, though not so much among the Bush/country club wing of the party (the more things change...). Of course, there were the Leftist lunatics and Dem hacks who “knew” that Reagan would start lobbing nukes at the Russians on January 20 (and I was there for that, too, and while I saw plenty of fireworks, none involved a Russian Slim Pickins riding a multi-megaton nuke into DC). Suffice it to say that this guy Hennessey is wrong, there was LOTS of enthusiasm for Reagan. We knew that if he was elected, we had a chance to get our country back, and for us 19-year-olds to not be in a trench getting shot at by Russians in some godforesaken place in Europe or the Mideast.
TV Guide cover art - best ever.
The super days of illustration. :::sigh::: Peak, Amsel, Fuchs
The best thing about Carter’s Presidency was Billy Beer and pictures of the choo choo in front of the gas station....
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