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2016 Is Shaping Up to Be an EXACT Repeat of 1980 …(Except Carter Wasn’t So Sickly)
Gateway Pundit ^ | August 22,2016 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 08/22/2016 4:15:58 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Via Hennessey’s View:

You probably remember that in September 1980 voters were couldn’t wait to cast a vote for Reagan.

If you remember it like that, you remember wrong. At least a little wrong.

TIME magazine examined voter sentiment in its September 15, 1980, issue. Voters that year sounded a lot like voters this year. Here’s how Ed Magnuson summarized the voters of 1980:

Disenchanted, but not apathetic. Caring about issues, although much more concerned about character. Longing for a strong person to trust, but fearful of strength lacking sound judgment. Leery of weakness, but edgy about brashness. All too mindful of the disappointments of the past, but seeking hope in the future. Leaning toward one man, but often out of desperation and a sense of disdain for the others. Uncommitted. Unpredictable.

1980, people knew Carter was weak and bumbling, but they were afraid Reagan might blow up the world. In 2016, we know Clinton is crooked and sickly, and some people are afraid Trump might blow up the world. (In fact, almost every Republican candidate since Goldwater was supposed to blow up the world. That charge is getting pretty stale.)

The Numbers Are Remarkably Similar

When you look at the numbers from about the same period, you find incredible similarities between Clinton vs. Trump and Carter vs. Reagan. Since Rasmussen is the only major public poll looking at likely voters (as opposed to registered voters), we’ll use that.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online White House Watch survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows Clinton with 41% support to Trump’s 39%. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson picks up nine percent (9%) of the vote, while Green Party nominee Jill Stein trails with three percent (3%). Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

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To: AmusedBystander
but then again Carter had 18% interest rates on national debt that barely registers today

That's a YUGE problem. Interest rates CANNOT stay at these levels. A 2.5% 10YR US T-Note would be a shock to the system.

IMHO this problem is more dangerous than terrorism.

21 posted on 08/22/2016 5:11:11 PM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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To: D Rider

Pete Wilson was the last GOP senator. I think his term ended in 2000.


22 posted on 08/22/2016 5:18:05 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: maddog55

We were pretty F—ked up in 1980 too... young people thought we were done. They had never known anything different.


23 posted on 08/22/2016 5:20:01 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: D Rider

they are both democrats. I beleive the last Republican CA senator was Pete Wilson.


24 posted on 08/22/2016 5:20:42 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: x

I’m pretty sure that Trump, as a share of population size at the time, got a higher % of primary votes than Reagan did.

Nope. Reagan 59.8% Trump 44.9%.

Reagan ran against 2 others, GHWB & John (a bad joke) Anderson.
Trump against 16? 17? That discrepancy would impact the difference in percentages towards Trump closing that gap and support the contention of the subject.


25 posted on 08/22/2016 5:23:07 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: x

No, you’re judging by Reagan’s total of the GOP primary.

I said, “as a percentage of population.” Reagan had 7.7m out of 226.5m for .34% of the US population, while Trump, at 13m out of a population of 324m had 4% of the US population.


26 posted on 08/22/2016 5:27:47 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Eagles Field
There were about seven candidates at the start in 1980.

Nobody made any headway but Reagan and Bush (and Anderson), so the others exited early on.

That was one of many signs that the party was more united behind Reagan in 1980 than it is behind Trump now.

The bottom line is that a majority of primary voters cast their ballot for Reagan in 1980.

No candidate got a majority in the primaries this time (there may be some caucus votes in the totals, but I don't think that changes the overall picture).

I'm not putting Donald Trump down. I'm just suggesting we tone down the exaggerated claims and flawed comparisons.

27 posted on 08/22/2016 5:33:44 PM PDT by x
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To: LS
Because the race was so contentious, it lasted longer and more votes were cast.

That doesn't mean a greater percentage of voters favored Trump this time than favored Reagan in 1980.

Trump won more votes in Republican primaries than Republican candidate before him.

He also had more primary votes cast against him than any Republican nominee before him.

That doesn't add up to a convincing picture of party unity.

Again, I don't want to take away from Trump's achievement, but Reagan's was greater and more significant.

28 posted on 08/22/2016 5:38:49 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Still, he got more votes and he got more % of votes as a % of population. Hard to argue.


29 posted on 08/22/2016 5:44:37 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: x

We’ve been through this before. All of the other candidates had even MORE votes cast against THEM than Trump, because He Won.


30 posted on 08/22/2016 6:04:41 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: x
OK, then the argument doesn't hold as much water. Still a considerable amount inasmuch Trump’s message will reverberate maybe more than any political figure in the history of the USA. The Reagan revolution came about from what he earned while in office. His impact became truth. Had he lost somehow you’d be hard pressed to find him in a footnote. If Trump loses you’ll never hear the end of it. This is Washington crossing the Delaware yet again. These times very much as desperate as then insofar the original concept is at risk of death.
31 posted on 08/22/2016 6:06:50 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: Hojczyk

Not only is Hillary more sickly but we can expect major releases of email hacked by the Russians that could very well derail her.


32 posted on 08/22/2016 6:08:52 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Hojczyk
Back in 1980, the media dd the very best they could to keep it a "horse race" to the very end. They even kept John Anderson in the mix. He was supposed to split the Reagan vote and re-elect Carter.

Gary Johnson is being primed to fill the John Anderson role this year.

The media wanted Carter re-elected so, so badly.

Check out the cover of TV Guide for Election week. They put John Anderson at the very top!


33 posted on 08/22/2016 6:18:55 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: All

Three events will turn this election around — debate one, debate two and somebody phoning in sick to avoid debate three.


34 posted on 08/22/2016 6:49:05 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for enlightenment and true justice in these times of mass delusion)
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To: LS
Good observation.
I was in the coal mining biz when Jimmah attacked our industry.
I can't tell your how relieved we were when Reagan came into office.
35 posted on 08/22/2016 7:04:05 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: SamAdams76

We are still living in the aftershocks and repercussions of what that man unleashed upon the earth. To think he still walks it.


36 posted on 08/22/2016 7:43:50 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Hojczyk; All

Trump is the Second Reagan. I loved and supported President Reagan, dittoes for President Trump.


37 posted on 08/22/2016 7:52:09 PM PDT by libstripper (out)
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To: Hojczyk

I remember 1980 well. In fact, I remember September 15, 1980, very well. I cut class at Georgetown to go to the Capitol to see Reagan, Bush and all of the Republican candidates for Congress.

Several friends and I managed to cut in front of a lot of others to the rope line right in front of the podium, and watched the speeches, culminating in Reagan’s. He then came around with Bush, shaking hands, etc. I wished him good luck and, while he was shaking my hand, an old lady next to me fainted. We kept shaking for about 10 seconds until others revived her. So I remember the day very well.

BTW, there was VERY great enthusiasm for Reagan among many, though not so much among the Bush/country club wing of the party (the more things change...). Of course, there were the Leftist lunatics and Dem hacks who “knew” that Reagan would start lobbing nukes at the Russians on January 20 (and I was there for that, too, and while I saw plenty of fireworks, none involved a Russian Slim Pickins riding a multi-megaton nuke into DC). Suffice it to say that this guy Hennessey is wrong, there was LOTS of enthusiasm for Reagan. We knew that if he was elected, we had a chance to get our country back, and for us 19-year-olds to not be in a trench getting shot at by Russians in some godforesaken place in Europe or the Mideast.


38 posted on 08/22/2016 8:18:59 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SamAdams76

TV Guide cover art - best ever.

The super days of illustration. :::sigh::: Peak, Amsel, Fuchs


39 posted on 08/23/2016 3:47:48 AM PDT by b9 (TRiUMPh!)
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To: Hojczyk

The best thing about Carter’s Presidency was Billy Beer and pictures of the choo choo in front of the gas station....


40 posted on 08/23/2016 4:17:52 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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