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Syrian Su-24s get intercepted and “encouraged to leave” by F-22 Raptors
The Aviationist ^ | 8/20/2016 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 08/20/2016 12:14:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Two Syrian Su-24 Fencer attempting to fly over a Kurdish-held area in northeastern Syria where U.S. SOF (Special Operations Forces) are operating, get intercepted by U.S. F-22 and encouraged to depart the airspace. Twice in the last few days, Syrian jets performing air strikes close to where U.S. SOF are operating in northeastern Syria caused coalition aircraft to scramble.

On Aug. 18, U.S. jets were dispatched to intercept the Syrian attack planes that were attacking targets near Hasakah supporting regime forces fighting the Syrian Kurdish forces. About 300 U.S. military operate in the same area, training Kurdish forces who are fighting Daesh.

Syrian pilots did not respond to the radio calls of the Kurdish on the general emergency frequency nor did they acknowledge calls attempted by the coalition on the air safety channel used for communication with the Russian aircraft operating over Syria.

Anyway, by the time U.S. fighters reached the area, the Syrian planes had already left.

Following the first “close encounter” the Pentagon warned Assad regime to not fly or conduct raids in the area where the American SOF are operating. However, on Aug. 19, two Su-24 Fencers, attempted again to penetrate the airspace near Hasakah.

This time, the two Syrian Arab Air Force attack planes were met by American F-22 Raptors (most probably already operating in the same area providing Combat Air Patrol).

As reported by ABC, a U.S. official said the presence of American F-22 aircraft “encouraged the Syrian aircraft to depart the airspace without further incident. No weapons were fired by the coalition fighters.”

This is not the first time the F-22 presence deters foreign military aircraft from harassing U.S. forces.

In March 2013, few months after two Sukhoi Su-25 attack planes operated by the Pasdaran (informal name of the IRGC – the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution) attempted to shoot down an American MQ-1 flying a routine surveillance flight in international airspace the Pentagon decided to escort the drones involved in ISR (intelligence surveillance reconnaissance) with fighter aircraft, including the Raptors.

In one very well-known episode, F-22 stealth jets providing HVAAE (High Value Air Asset Escort) to a U.S. Predator flew under the Iranian F-4E Phantoms that had intercepted the drone then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and radioed a famous “you really ought to go home” that allegedly scared the Iranian pilots off saving the drone.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: aviation; f22; syria
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To: Bobalu

Which encapsulated Russian missile is that?


21 posted on 08/20/2016 12:44:01 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Completely agree!

RE: “We need to get out of Syria - or - work with the Russians to prop up Assad. I say let the Russians do it. We have wasted enough blood and treasure.

We need to get obutthole tried”


22 posted on 08/20/2016 12:44:37 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Rebelbase
The mobile ICBM is what would hit us at home.

This is what would hit the Raptor.


23 posted on 08/20/2016 12:48:00 PM PDT by Bobalu (Democrats use guns to shoot the innocent. Republicans use them for self-defense.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

These were Syrian pilots which is probably why our Pentagon showed bravado... The Syrians are operating over their own country. And the Russians are in Syria legally at the request of the legal government. What is the legal status of our forces in Syria?

this whole story makes no sense

the Syrians would not be attacking Kurdish forces unless the so-called Kurds were part of the islamic radicals


24 posted on 08/20/2016 12:48:30 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Our spec ops are in the wrong country. Our government is supporting the bad guys.


25 posted on 08/20/2016 12:52:41 PM PDT by lurk (T)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

June 25, 1950


26 posted on 08/20/2016 12:52:44 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make US Intelligence great again!)
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To: PLMerite

SS-20
Recently upgraded to MIRV with 10 warheads.


27 posted on 08/20/2016 12:53:10 PM PDT by Bobalu (Democrats use guns to shoot the innocent. Republicans use them for self-defense.)
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To: lurk

kinda like Bosnia?


28 posted on 08/20/2016 12:54:27 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make US Intelligence great again!)
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To: ASA Vet

29 posted on 08/20/2016 12:54:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (Democrats use guns to shoot the innocent. Republicans use them for self-defense.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The Su-24 is a bomber with limited fighter abilities - an Su-27 would be a different matter altogether, but they are not operated by Syrians only Russians and were with drawn some months ago, unless some are still hanging around Tartus.


30 posted on 08/20/2016 1:00:07 PM PDT by PIF (Luna)
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To: realcleanguy

No, we’re covering the kurds as they keep taking more and more ISIS territory.

Considering they’re the only REAL army ISIS has had to battle all these years, I’d say they deserve air cover.

Tell whomever told you that we were the invaders was wrong.


31 posted on 08/20/2016 1:00:26 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Bobalu
This is an SS-20 SABER:

Much smaller (count the wheels). Phased out in 1988.

I believe it was based upon the upper-two stages of an SS-18 SATAN.

This is an SS-27 SICKLE/TOPOL-M:

Much larger (more wheels). There are a couple variants of the SS-27, I have to scrutinize images.

32 posted on 08/20/2016 1:02:19 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Not necessarily true. Recent pilot interviews and flight tests revealed the F-35 surpassed the performance of all of our current aircraft excluding the F-22.

The F-22 is a air superiority fighter whereas the F-35 is multi-role, multi-varient.

The F-22 replaces the F-15 and the F-35 replaces every other fighter.


33 posted on 08/20/2016 1:03:20 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: dp0622

The Obama administration support Isis in 2010. Now they support the Kurds pretty pathetic if you ask me


34 posted on 08/20/2016 1:08:12 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Bobalu

Well damn. I don’t know what that is, but I WANT ONE!


35 posted on 08/20/2016 1:08:18 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: realcleanguy

Nope. Syria is repressing Kurds and with Turkey has regularly invaded Kurd villages under the UN protected post-colony of Syria. Syria is a fictitious entity.


36 posted on 08/20/2016 1:12:11 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Hell, an F-15c could have done this.

But not invisibly.

37 posted on 08/20/2016 1:12:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bobalu
I can't tell Russian AD missiles apart. It looks like they have or will get S-300s:


38 posted on 08/20/2016 1:12:37 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: HombreSecreto

Yes they were shut down by the Obey Amendment (Obey has since been retired). There were at that time 187 planes now there are less due to attrition and a few crashes.

The tooling remains as well as the videos on how to do what with which, but the skills are nearly lost and would have to be relearned.

Various articles have appeared on restarting the line - look using this search: What it would take to make more F-22s.

Basically the F-22 uses obsolete tech and to this day has not been fully armed with LR BVR missiles nor heads up helmet (which tech is nearly 40 years old).

It might be cheaper to start from scratch, but then it would be a 20 year lead before production and operational combat status could be achieved.

Meanwhile, the F-22 Chinese knock off, the J-20, will be combat ready in 3 years. All the while the USAF is desperately trying to upgrade its fleet of F-15s to match the Chinese J-10 by 2032 which will be retired after the J-20 becomes ready. You see the problem here?


39 posted on 08/20/2016 1:13:30 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine - now its your turn.)
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To: Bobalu

Putin is illegaly in Syria and Syria is an illegal UN post colonial entity of various unrelated tribes. Asking the British to be under German command today would be less insulting than telling Kurds to put up with Syrian/UN government dominated by arabs


40 posted on 08/20/2016 1:13:44 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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