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IS THERE ROOM IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR THOSE WHO DON’T BELIEVE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 15 August 2016 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/16/2016 12:40:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan

If Msgr. Swetland is correct, and it is Church teaching that all Catholics must accept that Islam is a religion of peace, then the Catholic hierarchy will have demonstrated that it does not have the authority or reliability in discerning and transmitting the truth that it claims to have; Papal claims to speak in the name of Christ will be eviscerated; and the Catholic Church as a whole exposed as a fraud.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: robert; robertspencer; spencer; stuart; swetland
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To: Squantos

You tell them Arthur! Very well put!


21 posted on 08/16/2016 4:15:59 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Man Catholicism is really desperate for that echeumenism.


22 posted on 08/16/2016 4:19:09 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Hillary is Satan's spiritual advisor.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The fake Pope is a tool of the NWO


23 posted on 08/16/2016 4:25:21 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Never heard of an evangelical burning anyone at a stake?

Broad brush you are painting with.


24 posted on 08/16/2016 4:26:35 AM PDT by zek157
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To: nickcarraway

“Msgr. Swetland contends ... Catholics must give ‘religious assent,’ as per ... Lumen Gentium, which states: ‘In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ ...’. “

That should be “In matters of CATHOLIC faith and morals, the bishops speak ...” Argument shot down.

William Federer is author of “What Every American Should Know About Koran/Islam.” He explains in his talks it is religious, political, and military structure - not only religious. Two of his talks posted on Youtube are excellent educational items. This: youtube.com/watch?v=-YpJjRzQDIM is a rapid fire delivery and lasts about 45 minutes.

A better talk given more recently has much more detail (2:41 length), and better charts: youtube.com/watch?v=tBaZ2mhpPLI

I urge everyone to view one or both of these talks, for without knowledge, the motive and method of Islamic world conquest may very well succeed.


25 posted on 08/16/2016 4:43:06 AM PDT by Daffy
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To: Arthur McGowan
The good monsignor is deficient in his powers of reason, it appears. Islam is a heresy - always was, always will be. It speaks lies about Our Lord, Jesus Christ, and elevates the prophet muhammed above Him. Since lies can never be the foundation of peace, Islam is not now, never was, nor never will be a religion of peace.

All wars are started based on a lie. Islam is a way of war, precisely because it is founded on a lie.
26 posted on 08/16/2016 5:03:51 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

the Catholic hierarchy will have demonstrated that it does not have the authority or reliability in discerning and transmitting the truth that it claims to have

this has been manifestly obvious since the close of the Second Vatican Council...


27 posted on 08/16/2016 5:25:13 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: nickcarraway

There are many disturbing parallels between Catholicism and Islam’s corrupt coercive authoritarianism.

1. Both religions authorities tolerate pedastry (adult male on male child sex).
We all know by now that the Vatican lied about and gave shelter to THOUSANDS of homosexual pedophile priests for decades.

Little has changed. The Vatican recently REFUSED to require Bishops to report incidents of priest on child sexual abuse to authorities.
(In the USA public and private organizations, schools, scouts and day care are required to do so by law)

Vatican: Bishops not required to report abuse to police - UPI.com

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/02/11/Vatican-Bishops-not-required-to-report-abuse-to-police/6031455170063/

2. Both religions have been in bed together since Islam’s beginning. Early popes and its Augustine order encouraged the creation Islamic armies to use against enemies opposed to Catholic conquest.
To this very day the Vatican continues to curry favor with Muslims diplomaticly and spiritually, refusing to state clearly what victims of Muslim violence know only too well.
Islam represents an existential threat to non-Muslims around the world.
The Pope has on numerous occasions misled by repeating the lie that Islam worships the same god as Christianity and Judaism. Islam’s god is based on an earlier era moon god.

Exposing the Vatican-Islam Alliance | Frontpage Mag

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/136646/exposing-vatican-islam-alliance-giulio-meotti

3. Both Islam and Catholicism have mastered the art of deception.
Both lie for the sake of self-interest.
Both steal and a mass wealth off the backs of victims.
Catholic church has been convicted of hiding and laundering Italian mafia MILLIONS of euros.
Catholic church obfuscated investigation and disclosure of it holding MILLIONS of euros worth of Holocaust victims art, money, jewelry and property.

4. Both religions have a horific history of inficting subjugation, cruel punishment and death on their victims.
You can be killed for distributing a bible in some Islamic countries.
Catholics in European countries were given harsh punishment for possession and use of the bible.
Look at the fate of William Tyndale in 1536 C.E.: William Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English. The Church forbid owning or reading the Bible to control and restrict the teachings and to enhance their own power and importance.

Islam is No doubt an Awful blood thirsty religious cult with a body count in the Hundreds of Millions (200 million Indian Hindus slaughters during Islamic conquest)
However, Catholicism has done Christ’s ministry much long term harm by not acting strictly according to What Would Jesus Do.

RE: “On the other hand, Catholicism is not Islam. So the effort by some to make Catholicism (or Christianity) into Islam is extremely misguided.”


28 posted on 08/16/2016 5:34:36 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Bryanw92

The Roman Church should know that.

the Church knows this all to well...but it gets in the way of their merry little social justice networking, so it must be, well, conveniently ignored...


29 posted on 08/16/2016 5:45:41 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I don’t think there’s any evidence that he isn’t Pope.

Tool of the NWO? Absolutely.


30 posted on 08/16/2016 5:48:46 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: CitizenUSA

In Islam, you kill for God. In Christianity, God dies for you.


31 posted on 08/16/2016 6:20:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

There’s room in the Catholic Church for anyone seeking Christ.


32 posted on 08/16/2016 6:23:23 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: zek157
Broad brush you are painting with.

Just whom did you assume I was referring to when I stated "The Church"? Not too many fundies/evangels refer to themselves as such. The biggest one that comes to mind is the one in question in this article.

Live from Pete's royal lizard palace, the devourer of the sheep.


33 posted on 08/16/2016 6:32:53 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI wrote encyclicals that made it clear that Islam is a darkness. It is a false religion that denies Jesus Christ.

I’m surprised this heresy came out of the Archdiocese of Kansas City, Kansas, where Archbishop Naumann has acted in the past as one of the better bishops out there (he ordered that Kathleen Sebelius not be admitted to holy communion, for example).


34 posted on 08/16/2016 6:39:12 AM PDT by nd76
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To: Arthur McGowan
A great rebuttal to the msgr. in Crisis Magazine, as is every single comment that follows the rebuttal.

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/must-catholics-believe-islam-peaceful
35 posted on 08/16/2016 6:39:22 AM PDT by jobim
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To: Arthur McGowan

If the Catholic Church can no longer distinguish between the Works of God and the works of the devil, they should get out of the religion business and join the circus as a traveling freak show.


36 posted on 08/16/2016 8:15:57 AM PDT by Gritty (Although the mouth belongs to Hillary Clinton, the voice belongs to George Soros-Viktor Orban)
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To: Arthur McGowan

In the final analysis, the Pope is only a man. A good Pope is a righteous man. A mediocre Pope is a weak man. A poor Pope tries to lead the church astray, but generally fails.


37 posted on 08/16/2016 9:14:22 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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