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The Problem With Polls
US News ^ | August 3, 2016 | Dan Centinello

Posted on 08/05/2016 7:03:23 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican

How do we know any polling is actually being done?

Or is this like “climate science”, where they just make up data that supports their agenda?


21 posted on 08/05/2016 7:40:32 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well I for one NEVER thought those polls were right in 2012 and got hit in the head when Obama won. I take nothing for granted right now. Trump really should be ahead 20 points right now but for some reason he is behind 15 points. Quite frankly, I am THRILLED the stupid Olympics are heading into our countries brains for 17 days. Hopefully when they are over, a reboot can happen and Trump can get back on Terrorism, Economy, and Trade and nothing else.


22 posted on 08/05/2016 7:41:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Donglalinger

Aint dat da troof? By all means, believe every single story you hear about Trump collapsing in on himself like a dying star.
From the people who hate him.
Smh


23 posted on 08/05/2016 7:52:50 AM PDT by Brasky (You miss every shot you never take.)
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To: bigbob
How do we know any polling is actually being done?

Reminds one of the past exposures of fake helicopter traffic reports. They would go to the local airfield, fire up the chopper for the sound effects, but not take off. Pocketed the significant savings on avgas, and just made things up.

24 posted on 08/05/2016 7:53:51 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Frontpage Magazine has an article up (via lucianne.com) by Vadum, called SLIMING TRUMP.

There is a full court press being engaged, for a news BLACK OUT of TRUMP, unless it is negative news.

I am not finding these better articles much on Free Republic.

It is getting so ridiculous out there that I have put down cable news entirely, and FR is certainly the last standing place for pro-TRUMP commentary along with theconservativetreehouse.

The treehouse entertains no negative news against TRUMP and is working the case tirelessly for him, 24/7.

I am sick of the game. TRUMP is going to pull this off and we may need to get off the couch and try to get editorial letters of our own out there to our locals in order to help him do that.

A black out is hard to beat, but the existence of it in such a totalitarian manner should backfire. Americans traditionally don’t like bullies and rebel at thuggery, except for the Cruz/Ryan types.


25 posted on 08/05/2016 8:02:18 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxmsists coming, infinitum.)
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To: cba123
What matters, is who gets out to vote.

While I think Trump is struggling at the moment, I believe most polls are using a 2012 turnout model for this year, and I believe that to be a big mistake. In fact, the push polling, etc, might work against them, because more democrats in general, are lazy, and if they think their candidate is ahead, they wont vote. Republicans will vote as long as they believe they need to.

26 posted on 08/05/2016 8:12:27 AM PDT by Paradox (Opinions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

http://investmentwatchblog.com/trump-drops-bombshell-about-voter-fraud-then-videos-prove-hes-right/


27 posted on 08/05/2016 8:31:19 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In the past year the poll-cats stated....

Bibi would lose in Israel...

Scotland would leave the UK...

The UK conservatives would lose...

Brexit would lose...

We all know what happened.


28 posted on 08/05/2016 8:55:37 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: RitaOK

One thing though, isn’t it a little bit early for media all-out offensive to slander TRUMP? Should had waited until August.


29 posted on 08/05/2016 10:04:15 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: kaktuskid

In the past year the poll-cats stated.... Bibi would lose in Israel... Scotland would leave the UK... The UK conservatives would lose... Brexit would lose... We all know what happened

Needs to be repeated.

30 posted on 08/05/2016 10:15:23 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The problem with the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SEASON, is that there is way too much time between the conventions and the actual debates before the election.

That gives the media and the pundits and the poll-takers far too much time to demagogue and lie and cheat and create a lot of falsehoods about the candidates.

Right after the conventions, after waiting perhaps a week or so, the debates should begin. Then, after the idiotic and mostly false campaign bounces, the people can start to hear about the real issues that matter and where the candidates stand on all of them.

This poll-taking is meant to mislead and to try to make things happen that would not happen otherwise, if the people were actually getting informed about the issues and candidates.


31 posted on 08/05/2016 10:51:30 AM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: adorno
Fortunately, most of the American people aren't paying attention. However, media are still able to slander Trump, hoping that some of the horse manure will stick.

What Trump needs to do is to turn the table and focus on Hillary's corruption. Need to ignore the Khans and the like.

32 posted on 08/05/2016 10:56:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: All

I’ll scream it ad-infinitum :If Trump were guaranteed to lose, the Left would do everything in their power to MAKE SURE he DOES NOT drop out of the race.


33 posted on 08/05/2016 11:04:30 AM PDT by Maverick68 (p)
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To: TomGuy

The problem is that this sounds exactly like the excuses given in the last two elections.

You have to remember that Trump attracts active, participating people, where Hillary supporters wont move from the couch until the bus arrives to take them to the polls. They aren’t going to go to a rally and they will be generally invisible until then. This makes the apparent enthusiasm gap unreliable.

My hope is that polling becomes impossible as people transition off land lines.


34 posted on 08/05/2016 11:05:43 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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