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3 reasons the American Revolution was a Mistake
Vox ^ | July 1, 2016 | Dylan Matthews

Posted on 07/03/2016 10:50:12 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff

This July 4, let's not mince words: American independence in 1776 was a monumental mistake. We should be mourning the fact that we left the United Kingdom, not cheering it.

Of course, evaluating the wisdom of the American Revolution means dealing with counterfactuals. As any historian would tell you, this is a messy business. We obviously can't be entirely sure how America would have fared if it had stayed in the British Empire longer, perhaps gaining independence a century or so later, along with Canada.

But I'm reasonably confident a world in which the revolution never happened would be better than the one we live in now, for three main reasons: Slavery would've been abolished earlier, American Indians would've faced rampant persecution but not the outright ethnic cleansing Andrew Jackson and other American leaders perpetrated, and America would have a parliamentary system of government that makes policymaking easier and lessens the risk of democratic collapse.

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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Author: America sucks.


21 posted on 07/03/2016 11:08:49 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Finally, we'd still likely be a monarchy, under the rule of Elizabeth II, and constitutional monarchy is the best system of government known to man.

Bow down to your masters, slaves.

22 posted on 07/03/2016 11:10:12 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: carriage_hill

Where do they find these guys? My God.


23 posted on 07/03/2016 11:10:16 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
It's Vox.

You won't find a more wretched hive of scum and villianry.

24 posted on 07/03/2016 11:11:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Ooo, we have a live one here! Shouldn't he have a cup of cocoa and PJs?

He envisions a utopian Royal America complete with a coexist policy towards the American Indians, early abolition of slavery and a Parliamentary government. Talk about cherry-picking and contra-factual perspective, he appears to forget what 1770s Britain was about.

Prior to the Napoleonic Wars, this was close to the recent height of the British Aristocracy and much of them wanted lands and titles for "younger sons" in America. With the push to turn the 13 Colonies from proprietorships into Royal Colonies, their ability to force such privileges here would have been made easy.

Also missing from this idiocy is any matching of behavior that historical Britain had towards Ireland, India and the later African colonies. Princely chaps and behavior, don't you know!

I could go MUCH FURTHER but what is the point? Let this fool dream of the Union Jack, wrapped around his neck!

25 posted on 07/03/2016 11:11:56 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Fungi
.....know what your words mean...."An outright retromingent fool is saying it better." doesn't make sense: Retromingent.....urinating backward because of bodily configuration: The lion is a retromingent animal. noun. 2. an animal that urinates backward.
26 posted on 07/03/2016 11:12:42 AM PDT by yoe (Some of)
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To: carriage_hill

Hey kid.

Sorry about your face.

27 posted on 07/03/2016 11:13:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The US probably would have ended up as a giant Hudson’s Bay Company, complete with a plethora of Lords and Ladies trampling the citizens with their horse-drawn carriages and and army of mustachioed British drill sergeants to keep the Darkies and dissidents in line. I don’t share the author’s optimistic viewpoint.


28 posted on 07/03/2016 11:13:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
An visit to the library, a reading of Edmund Burke's Speech on Conciliation with the Colonies to the British Parliament in the Year 1775, combined with a tiny smattering of common sense would reveal the historical ignorance of this sad young man.
29 posted on 07/03/2016 11:14:08 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
"Oh yeah, did we just sit around when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
30 posted on 07/03/2016 11:14:17 AM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

If the United States had remained a British colony, millions of American boys would’ve been killed as cannon fodder during World War I.


31 posted on 07/03/2016 11:15:26 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

True. I like Britain, Churchill was a good leader, etc; but why would Matthews want us still under their rule? I don’t get it.


32 posted on 07/03/2016 11:16:46 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: reg45

If the U.S. had remained a British colony, something like World War I could have led to a permanent end to the colony at the end of the day.


33 posted on 07/03/2016 11:18:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: Mr. Jeeves

When you think about it, isn’t that all the U.S. has become anyway — a nation run by corporate interests who own the government?


34 posted on 07/03/2016 11:19:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

With out the American Revolution, by 1945 we would all be speaking German.


35 posted on 07/03/2016 11:19:48 AM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

This crap is like wishing you had given the red head back in high school another shot.

It’s just not worth the energy.


36 posted on 07/03/2016 11:19:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

This would have been one of the Tories in 1776 who gladly bared his neck to the yoke. People like him are utterly useless as change agents. Their chains rest on them lightly.


37 posted on 07/03/2016 11:20:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Just another historically ignorant troll. Ignore him.


38 posted on 07/03/2016 11:20:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

This POS article should be reported to the admin as “abuse”.


39 posted on 07/03/2016 11:20:51 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Bloody tory bastard.


40 posted on 07/03/2016 11:21:36 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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