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Dow-DuPont Merger Will Cripple Farmers and Food Sovereignty, Groups Warn
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Posted on 06/28/2016 8:08:39 AM PDT by Java4Jay

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To: Java4Jay

This just proves that big biz has been using big gov regulations to keep small and medium biz down.

The solution is not more regs, but less, in order to force top heavy big biz to actually compete with lean and mean medium and small biz....

When big biz can hire armies of lawyers, how can small/medium biz navigate the paperwork maze put before them by big gov?


21 posted on 06/28/2016 8:39:23 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: Carry me back

I said something similar on a thread yesterday.


22 posted on 06/28/2016 8:48:44 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: NorthMountain

That’s correct.
The trouble with some conservatives is they think a bit too binary.
The trouble we have now is that our gov’t representatives no longer have our nation’s common interest and we’ll being in mind when they write laws and enforce them.
Big-Ag corporations have co-opted and corrupted our gov’t lawmakers and oversight.

For instance -
Monsanto truly has been a nightmare for national food security, ie:
Terminator seeds forbid farmer saving annual harvest seed stock,

Monsanto GMO cross pollenation contamination of non-GMO crops

GMO corn that contains BT insect pesticide toxin is implicated in causing an increase in human GI tract disease

Round-up herbicide soil sterilization and creation of herbicide resistant Super-weeds

Round-up residue in food is a recognized carcinogenic

Big Agra, like Big Pharma, Big banks, Big Insurance companies are turning out to be a Big Mess.

RE: “I’m all in favor of limiting the government to those powers explicitly delegated to it in the Constitution.

The problem is not that congressmen and bureaucrats are corrupt and can be bought. The problem is that they’re worth buying.”


23 posted on 06/28/2016 8:54:36 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Java4Jay

The thing that the leftists don’t get, not at all, not even a little bit, is that the big corporations that they hate so much THRIVE in an atmosphere of oppressive government regulation. The big corporations LOVE the EU.

It is small business that is crushed by big government. Big government and big corporations go together like a horse and carriage.


24 posted on 06/28/2016 8:57:31 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
Big Agra, like Big Pharma, Big banks, Big Insurance companies are turning out to be a Big Mess.

At the heart of it all is Big Government.

Ranting against Big Business without recognizing Big Government as the source of the evil is shortsighted folly.

25 posted on 06/28/2016 9:02:59 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: NorthMountain

I completely agree with your clarifying point.
Well said.

The crony capitalism that our generation has allowed on our watch, has endangered the very existence of our representative republic.
The result is that the up and coming Millenial generation is overwhelmingly for socialism and against capitalism.

We’ve lost our foreign and domestic moral authority when we rejected our creator’s moral authority...

RE: “At the heart of it all is Big Government.

Ranting against Big Business without recognizing Big Government as the source of the evil is shortsighted folly.”


26 posted on 06/28/2016 9:16:04 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: NorthMountain

One thing I’ve learned along the way is that monopolies are not a good thing. During WWII I learned that virtually everyone learned how to grow food. Folks, learn now how to grow food. There are many ways. Container gardens for apartments with grow lights (pretty sure many already know how to do that). Container garden in very small spaces outside (I use this method in a courtyard 8x10ft. Hydrophonic growing methods really produce well. Stodk up on fertilizer while it can still be purchased. We lived in a sub-division during the great war and you could stand in your back yard and see a garden behing every house down the street. Our backyard not only had a garden, but a lot of Rabbit hutches also. They don’t make noise like chickens. Needless to say our meat diet was well supplemented by Rabbit. Urban dwellers need to be learning survival skills.
Sermon of the day from the old lady.


27 posted on 06/28/2016 9:18:08 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Don’t forget permits required to store seed and unlawful to collect rain water.


28 posted on 06/28/2016 9:20:39 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Can you see them being able to enforce those laws?


29 posted on 06/28/2016 9:22:30 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan

A country boy can survive ...

Every year, I learn something new about vegetable gardening.


30 posted on 06/28/2016 9:24:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: Java4Jay

Make a point to know someone in the country who raises a garden. You can get enough seed from their harvest to grow your next years garden. Have to be sure they are heritage seed. It’s not hard to hid a lot of seeds.


31 posted on 06/28/2016 9:25:19 AM PDT by WVNan
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You might want to visit the Seed Savers Exchange.
32 posted on 06/28/2016 9:25:36 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: Java4Jay

If this displeases you, you are cordially
invited to go into farming and grow your own stuff.


33 posted on 06/28/2016 9:39:47 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: NorthMountain

Thanks for the link. I am fortunate that, even though I live in the middle of downtown merchant’s district, I have many friends in the country where I could “borrow” part of their garden spot to grow what I need. I am so blessed to be living in this basically rural part of the country. We are way behind the times, which means we are self-sufficient, as seen during the recent floods in southern WV. They jumped in to help and save one another, without waiting for the politicians and D.C. to offer disaster help. Neighbors who were victims of the water left their own needs to run and help those who were worse hit. By next week they will have all the debris removed and they are already washing down the streets. The state has mobilized to take water, etc to the area. My two churches are packing two “Flood Buckets” to be delivered by the UMC. These are buckets of cleaning supplies. Organized UMC volunteers are already headed down to help with cleaning houses that are left standing. Saw last night on my FB that too many clothes have arrived and they have no place to put them. Stop the clothing donations already!


34 posted on 06/28/2016 9:40:14 AM PDT by WVNan
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Are you in the flooded area? I’m not, thank Heaven ... I have been through floods in the past. It’s disgusting and depressing as well as deadly.


35 posted on 06/28/2016 9:44:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
Big Agra, like Big Pharma, Big banks, Big Insurance companies are turning out to be a Big Mess.

"Big" anything is by nature both inefficient, and corrupt. This has always been so, and always will be. The inefficiency and corruption are an inherent 'byproduct' of their size...

the infowarrior

36 posted on 06/28/2016 10:19:52 AM PDT by infowarrior
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The thing that the leftists don’t get, not at all, not even a little bit, is that the big corporations that they hate so much THRIVE in an atmosphere of oppressive government regulation.

I'm afraid that they do get it. They know big corporations can be bought off in return for a few short- to medium-term legal advantages, creating large, hierarchical monopolies that are easy for governments to nationalize at some future date. As long as the boys at the top can keep some of their perks, they won't even object. Fill the corporations up with well-catechized HR managers who are up to date on all of the latest nuances of political correctness and you have entities perfectly groomed to be directly absorbed into government at some future date.

Small businesses, on the other hand, are completely uncontrollable by government, and run by all sorts of right wing cranks, fanatical libertarians, and Ayn Rand devotees who can never be brought around to right thinking...and who give the proletariat all sorts of reactionary ideas about independence and personal freedom.

Big government uses big business and its favored legal status to crush small business as part of their long-term plan to achieve utopian Communism. It has taken a long time for many conservatives to figure out that the GOPe is an integral part of this scheme, and not the least bit interested in reducing the regulatory or tax burden on small business. As long as they can keep tricking most a=small business owners into voting for the GOP with a few platitudes about "middle class tax cuts", they feel to real pressure to do otherwise.

37 posted on 06/28/2016 11:02:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: NorthMountain
I learn something new about vegetable gardening.

Plenty to learn about growing food on YouTube. Learn how to smoke meat that will stay edible for years, just like your forefathers did.

38 posted on 06/28/2016 11:42:40 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump kills PC-Hillary kills USA-Pick one.)
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Are you in the flooded area? I’m not, thank Heaven ... I have been through floods in the past.

I was downstream of the early 1950 Kansas City Flood, in Oklahoma.

39 posted on 06/28/2016 11:45:26 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump kills PC-Hillary kills USA-Pick one.)
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To: GraceG; Java4Jay
GraceG :" When big biz can hire armies of lawyers, how can small/medium biz navigate the paperwork maze
put before them by big gov? "

Correction and addendum :
When big biz can hire armies of lawyers, how can small/medium biz navigate the paperwork maze
put before them by big gov., a government that has already been bought out by the petro-chemical and massive seed companies : ie. Monsanto.

40 posted on 06/28/2016 12:50:51 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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