[JohnBrowdie]

the f-35 haters aren’t going to like this.

[Don Corleone]

The F-35 is a great airplane until you have to get down in the mud and take out troops, tanks and trucks with surgical precision. Then call in the A-10s.

[ThunderSleeps]

8 and oh sounds impressive, particularly against a capable adversary such as an F-15E. However, I'll hold my enthusiasm until I know what the ROE for the two sides were and what the scenarios were. Were the Eagles allowed to use all their capabilities and usual tactics? Or were they restricted to playing by the rules and (lesser) capabilities of a simulated enemy?

Not enough information to be celebrating, or hating-on the -35.

[Flintlock]

Ha.
I smell the F-111 all over again.

[jpsb]

And unemployment is at an all time low.

[Little Pig]

I wonder if the “simulation” used the F-35 working the way it says it will on paper, or if they used the aircraft as it currently exists. On paper, the F-35 is a very impressive aircraft. The reality, however...

[DCBryan1]

during simulated engagements

Get the F15s and F35s up and we'll see. Upgrading the F-15 with engines and a radar/IRS&T/AAM package of the same generation as that of the F35 would almost equalise almost all advantages the F35 has except stealth.

[Red Badger]

(noticing also the “pew pew pew” in the chart….)

They were using Stink bombs?.......................

[Yo-Yo]

Mtn. Home AFB, my old stomping grounds, circa 1978-81!

[Popman]

Hopefully, by the time the F-35 is actually commissioned and approved to go into air combat, we will have a POTUS that will actually use them...

[DungeonMaster]

F-15E Strike Eagles unable to shoot down the F-35s in 8 dogfights during simulated deployment

In other news unemployment is 4.9 percent and Islam is still a religion of peace.

[CodeToad]

Story has already been posted many times, I think. The true story is that the rules were set to restrict the F-15 and give the F-35 the advantage.

NEVER believe a politically charged story without knowing all the facts.

[HamiltonJay]

I would hope the latest planes would dominate 30 year old plane. If it didn’t what is the point?

[microgood]

the f-35 haters aren’t going to like this.

I do not think it is a matter of hate. If you look at the 1.05 trillion dollar cost and that 167 have been built, that puts the cost of each one at 8 billion dollars or 1/2 the cost of an aircraft carrier. Even if they build 1000 of them, the cost would be 1.1 billion dollars each.

[Secret Agent Man]

F15e is not the latest and greatest f15.

The f15se is. Upgraded electronics and some added stealth capability.

[afsnco]

The truth of the matter is that all new airframes go through these issues. The F-16 was called a Lawn Dart when it was first tested and it’s been a workhorse ever since. The F-22 had oxygen problems until just a couple of years ago, causing hypoxia in its pilots, and now it’s the star of the air war over Syria. The Osprey was also a mess when it was in development. This article indicates the F-15, the AWACS and the C-17 were also heavily criticized during development: http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2010/August%202010/0810failures.aspx

[azcap]

A forty-year-old airplane that cost 30 million dollars got beat by a one-year-old airplane the cost $309. Shocking

[wardaddy]

F35 costs 150-340 million each with navy version highest

F15k cost 100 million

Circa 2000 model late 1970s F series generation maybe DEFG run 25-40 million each

We’re not defending fortress Europe from the east anymore

I thinking questioning overproducing super high tech is valid

Who do we fight in air air or air defense that can compete against the highest end?

The Chinese .....not yet

[tophat9000]

why would you test air-to-air combat capabilities against an F-15 E Strike Eagle?....The “E” is not the fighter version of the F-15 ...the “”E” is the ground attack version of the F-15

[DesertRhino]

The plane is a joke. This is pure propaganda. It is orders of magnitude slower, less maneuverable, short legged and lightly armed compared to the strike eagle.

Saying you sneaked a low observable strike plane to a target is not the same as beating a strike eagle. Idiotic. typical USAF/contractor propaganda.