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How American Politics Went Insane (Long and very serious)
The Atlantic ^ | July/August Issue | Jonathan Rauch

Posted on 06/25/2016 2:10:09 PM PDT by NRx

I am not even going to attempt to excerpt this. It is too long, the points are too nuanced and after reading it for half an hour I am only about halfway through it. I can't say that I agree with every observation so far but I will say that this is a very serious and sober read, and much of it has the ring of truth.

I would like to hear what others think of this. But please take some time and read it through first.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2020election; democraticparty; gop; insanepolitics; politics; teaparty; theatlantic
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1 posted on 06/25/2016 2:10:09 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

The Atlantic.....a Marxist rag. Why bother.


2 posted on 06/25/2016 2:13:05 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NRx

As I am plodding along some of this stuff is problematic. I did a quick Google and what I saw (strictly first impressions) suggests that Jonathan Rauch is a strange hybrid of radical prog and neo-reactionary. Hmmm... still reading.


3 posted on 06/25/2016 2:20:27 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx

Rauch is a Brookings Institution faygeleh.


4 posted on 06/25/2016 2:20:36 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: NRx

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams


5 posted on 06/25/2016 2:21:15 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Vaquero

um...maybe because by reading we expand our knowledge and learn new things, or in come cases, by applying our analytical and integrative thinking skills, we reject the information in whole or in part?


6 posted on 06/25/2016 2:21:32 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: NRx

7 posted on 06/25/2016 2:21:49 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: NRx

this is the basis of the argument for why 25 million of us must be liquidated


8 posted on 06/25/2016 2:22:55 PM PDT by dontreadthis (I finally came up with this tagline)
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To: NRx

Nationalism without a nationalist
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/06/nationalism-without-a-nationalist.php


9 posted on 06/25/2016 2:23:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: NRx

t’s 2020, four years from now. The campaign is under way to succeed the president, who is retiring after a single wretched term. Voters are angrier than ever—at politicians, at compromisers, at the establishment. Congress and the White House seem incapable of working together on anything, even when their interests align. With lawmaking at a standstill, the president’s use of executive orders and regulatory discretion has reached a level that Congress views as dictatorial—

Didn’t make it to the nuanced part. Is the author kidding? 2020 until all this happens. REALLY!!!!?


10 posted on 06/25/2016 2:23:23 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: Vaquero; NRx

Agree. I always avoid The Atlantic. Nothing credible, or shall I say anything they print has credibility problems.


11 posted on 06/25/2016 2:24:41 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TomServo

Adding that to my reading list.


12 posted on 06/25/2016 2:25:52 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx

Just another tl;dr pile of liberal talking points from a Brookings hack.


13 posted on 06/25/2016 2:27:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Okay, the whole piece was written with an undercurrent that everything that has gone wrong with the political process is a result of conservative republicans, the TEA party and an uninformed republican electorate. There are a couple of slights of the democrats thrown in for a semblance of balance. About what I’d expect from the Atlantic.


14 posted on 06/25/2016 2:30:33 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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Never mind misidentifying liberal GOPers as “conservative” and trying to prop up the semblance of two distinct political parties (Uniparty denial).


15 posted on 06/25/2016 2:32:19 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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It’s 2020, four years from now. The campaign is under way to succeed the president, who is retiring after a single wretched term. Voters are angrier than ever—at politicians, at compromisers, at the establishment. Congress and the White House seem incapable of working together on anything, even when their interests align. With lawmaking at a standstill, the president’s use of executive orders and regulatory discretion has reached a level that Congress views as dictatorial—not that Congress can do anything about it, except file lawsuits that the divided Supreme Court, its three vacancies unfilled, has been unable to resolve.

After reading the first paragraph I am inclined to not read anymore, because it is all conjecture based on the writer's fantasies. When you start out with utter rubbish, how can one expect it to become serious at all?

16 posted on 06/25/2016 2:32:53 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: NRx
Nuanced, Huh? I'll confess I stopped reading 2/3s of the way through, but I think I got his "nuanced" points, stated over and again at least three or four times: (1) Democrats are responsible politicians, (2) Republicans are reactionary unsophisticated crazies, (3) It's all Trump's fault; he's a bad man and so are all that support him, and, finally, (4) Trust party hacks, the political machine, and back room dealing, because those hacks are blessed with far more wisdom than the average Lumkin Proletariat voter could ever possess, and we are so lucky to have them.

It's my own fault for clicking on The Atlantic in the first place.

17 posted on 06/25/2016 2:36:41 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: NRx

Utterly stupid, waste-of-time article.


18 posted on 06/25/2016 2:36:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: NRx

So much blather and drivel.

Could not continue past when he started in on how good pork barrel spending was. An argue do for returning to smoke filled rooms and pork barrel spending and ignoring us stupid voters is too much

Post it somewhere else. It was stoooopid


19 posted on 06/25/2016 2:37:10 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

Also, it’s a polemic on how much better it would be if there were only two parties - a moderate GOP and an energetic Dem party to keep the masses under a bushel.


20 posted on 06/25/2016 2:38:16 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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