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‘Spanking kids is why US is more violent than Germany’
TheLocal.de ^ | 20 Jun 2016 12:01 GMT+02:00 | Emma Anderson

Posted on 06/20/2016 5:53:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai

As the United States continues to debate gun control in the wake of the Orlando massacre, The Local speaks with a criminologist about how parenting practices rather than laws have made Germans less violent. […]

… (T)he truth behind why Germany sees far less gun violence per capita than the United States goes deeper than the legal structures, argues German criminologist Christian Pfeiffer, who has conducted research on this topic for years. “America is a completely different world,” Pfeiffer told The Local. “The laws are a result of a public that believes in fear. The laws reflect a culture of repression. America is a sick country, in my opinion.” […]

Specifically, his research with the Criminology Research Institute of Lower Saxony has shown that there is a strong correlation between a violent childhood and violence later in life. Pfeiffer, who was also once Justice Minister in Lower Saxony, notes that while Germany has a low acceptance rate of spanking or other forms of physical discipline for children, approval of such methods are surprisingly high in the United States. …

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: banglist; discipline; guncontrol; spanking
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To: Olog-hai

I am so sick of this garbage.

Does this idiot even know that spanking (hitting) long ago became rare in America, thanks to assholes like Dr. Spock?

Guess what? Since it’s become rare, society has become much more sick, AND violent.

My only exception is blacks. OMG are they violent with the kids. It’s whaling them for every damn thing, including when it’s just inconvenient for welfare queen to have bastard kids interfering with her TV show. So, there IS too much hitting.

But kids do well knowing they could get a well-placed and well-timed whack.


21 posted on 06/20/2016 6:19:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Olog-hai

Germany is becoming much more violent and for a very similar reason for the violence in USA.


22 posted on 06/20/2016 6:21:56 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Olog-hai

Children should be given trauma programming “shocks” such as corporal punishment for later maleability. This is how you make them smarter and more neurotic.


23 posted on 06/20/2016 6:23:53 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

I admit, I was a “difficult” child. When it came to breaking a rule, my first rule was look around and see if anybody’s watching,not “is this right or wrong”.

I was spanked, with Father’s belt, but there was a process. I was usually spanked for something that happened while he was at work. When he got home Mother Father and I sat down and discussed my “bad”. Then a decision on how many licks. Bent over the bed and took them.Father seemed to dislike it but he went at it with a will.

Then it was done, all over, never mentioned again. Hardly some daily beating, I can remember every one, and why. May well have kept me out of prison.


24 posted on 06/20/2016 6:25:01 AM PDT by Barkeep99
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To: Delta 21

I second that. Pussies abound. We would never be in this boat if there were still real men around.

On a side note, I like your tag line, I’m waiting too, perhaps we can wait together sometime heh.


25 posted on 06/20/2016 6:26:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai

I’m sorry, I must be misreading this. Germany is less violent than the US? Does the author of this article know anything about the history of the 20th century???


26 posted on 06/20/2016 6:26:39 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: Olog-hai

I’m no. 50% of the vilolence is done by 3% of our population.

Said population looks like Obamas sons if he had any.

The violence rate in the USA among nonminority population in the USA is the same as Norway Germany etc.


27 posted on 06/20/2016 6:26:49 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Olog-hai

Got news for you, Pfeiffer.

Little-known and -acknowledged FACT is that the US is saturated with German blood, Germans being THE #1 all-time immigrant group from day 1. Our culture is HEAVILY influenced by German culture.

Guess if you don’t like America, you might not like German ways either, huh?

I think you are confusing recent PC trends with deep-seated cultural traditions. You won’t find “lack of physical punishment” in German roots.

I know something about this!


28 posted on 06/20/2016 6:27:43 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

This dude has blinders on. He’s talking about the last 50 wussy years, since Germany’s been scared of its own shadow. They react to their extreme authoritarian past. By becoming wussies.

Idiot doesn’t look at the whole, never mind the fact that all cultures traditionally had some physical punishment tradition. This Spockism is yet another recent delusion and denial.


29 posted on 06/20/2016 6:32:19 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Barkeep99

Sounds like the way I got it too. I wasn’t spanked out of anger. I was always sat down and explained to. My dad hated doing it though, I could tell it would upset him. I never understood that until I had kids and had to spank them. It breaks my heart, but I do it anyways. I’m too soft on the inside heh.


30 posted on 06/20/2016 6:35:59 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai

I lived in Germany for three years and saw so many German moms just wailing on their kids.

(They also scream at them to toilet train them often before the age of one. FILTHY FILTHY DIRTY CHILD!! NO! NO! BAD! BAD! BAD!)


31 posted on 06/20/2016 6:37:05 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Olog-hai

No Dad’s and not spanking seems to have caused bigger problems. IMO


32 posted on 06/20/2016 6:37:19 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Olog-hai
"America is a sick country in my opinion." . . . . Pfeiffer believes that it's a deeper culture of fear and powerlessness that dictate US policies and social behaviours. "People in Germany don't suffer from that powerlessness like in the United States. People there want to overcome that fear by having a weapon."

Nice unbiased basis for the research.

33 posted on 06/20/2016 6:38:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Olog-hai

The problem in this country is that not enough children are getting spanked.


34 posted on 06/20/2016 6:38:48 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Socon-Econ

Actually, no, blacks tend to be very violent with kids. They beat them for every stupid thing. They really do learn violence partly from that, because it’s all they know.

Physical punishment is actually important, but it cannot be constant beatings for no good reason.

You get violent thugs on 1 hand, and privileged prissy whiny prima donnas on the other from white Spock-raised never-touch brats. Who often begin to think they can be violent to get their ways, too.


35 posted on 06/20/2016 6:39:59 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Olog-hai

America is a sick country, in my opinion”

Right.

But a place where they play let’s pretend 24/7 with worship of environment and the embrace of Islam (where I’m pretty sure children are .....spanked), that’s a perfectly healthy society. Oh, and let’s not forget the nominally repressed but absolutely omnipresent pan-Teutonic (really pan-European) hatred of Jews. Yah, Germany, all that is perfectly healthy.


36 posted on 06/20/2016 6:40:29 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: snoringbear

Germans are so wussified they won’t even fly their own flag. I had a guy from Germany stop in front of my house, amazed I was flying it with the American flag. I was shocked.


37 posted on 06/20/2016 6:41:33 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

The greatest Generation not only voted heavily for communist principles, but raised the Worst Generation with those Spock principles and began the cycle.

The GG is the Founding Gen. They had much more at stake and did a better job passing down their great tradition.

Never trust a bum like Brokaw to determine a name for a gen.


38 posted on 06/20/2016 6:45:06 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

What generation are YOU, O Perfect One?


39 posted on 06/20/2016 6:49:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Olog-hai

Germany condemning violence is like Bill Clinton condemning infidelity.


40 posted on 06/20/2016 6:51:43 AM PDT by IronJack
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