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Scarborough Predicts Trump Loss So Huge, Will Make Goldwater Look ‘Extremely Successful’
Legal Insurrection ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/17/2016 7:44:09 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

In 1964, Republican Barry Goldwater suffered a devastating landslide loss to LBJ. Aside from his home state of Arizona, Goldwater carried only five other states, all in the Deep South. Goldwater amassed only 52 electoral votes, to Johnson’s 486.

But even that paltry performance will look “extremely successful” compared to the thrashing that is in store for Donald Trump in November–if you believe Joe Scarborough. On today’s Morning Joe, after reviewing Trump’s disapproval numbers with various demographics, Scarborough said “Barry Goldwater is going to look like an extremely successful candidate.” Interestingly, Nick Confessore of the New York Times disagreed, arguing that the American electorate is so polarized that LBJ-like landslides are impossible today, and that the candidate of either party has a guaranteed base of 48%.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2016election; barrygoldwater; donaldtrump; joescarborough
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To: GOPJ
Morning news appeals to the 6% of democrats who are liberal elite and the 1% of Republicans who are #NEVERTRUMP... Also some bored folks getting ready for work who enjoy watching excited people talk over each other.

And those who turn to Fox to see the attractive female newscasters and wonder whether their dresses can get any shorter or tighter.


81 posted on 06/17/2016 8:58:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: elcid1970

Well said.

And Barry Goldwater’s economic adviser was Milton Friedman!!


82 posted on 06/17/2016 9:00:44 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If Trump loses, he’s guaranteed to win all the states Mittens won in 2012.

He can’t do worse.


83 posted on 06/17/2016 9:01:05 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: miss marmelstein

I like that “Deliverance Boy” part! lol. Perfectly suited for Joe.

I know, you’re right that Joe is a stinking demagogue, but in my fury with FOXMegyn News Corp, TRUMP found a platform at Morning Joe.

I even attributed that 20% Democrat polling that was *for* TRUMP, early on, to Morning Joe’s months of positive discussion with and toward TRUMP and I really enjoyed it.

The judge thing did it, alright, but it was used as an excuse, in my humble opinion, for Scarborough to reverse course on TRUMP.

I firmly believe the REAL reason for the reversal was associated with Hillary finalizing her capture of the nomination numbers, and Joe covered it up with the snot fit on the judge.

That, and because he and Mika were under fire from the Left who were hopping mad about their months and months of hospitality to DJT. They also got a ratings bump with all that hospitality.

Not anymore.


84 posted on 06/17/2016 9:01:08 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. PubYeslic education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: Maine Mariner

Yup. This will either be a close Trump loss or a Trump win by a larger margin than anyone expected. No way Hillary runs away with it, given all her baggage.


85 posted on 06/17/2016 9:02:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sybeck1
"Would Bush get the base to the polls? Anybody else?"

My thoughts exactly. If Trump is unable to beat hillary, then who could have beat her?

IMO, this election will determine if we should even bother with elections from this point on. Bottom line, if Trump does not win against hillary it's way too late save the republic through the elections process.

The central government has spent years importing millions of foreigners into our country for the soul purpose of making elections irrelevant. November will determine if the republic survives in it's current form.

86 posted on 06/17/2016 9:02:53 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: RitaOK

You may absolutely be right. I now listen to talk radio in the morning - like Imus who is a Trump supporter.


87 posted on 06/17/2016 9:03:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Left truly does not know what to say — or do — about Donald Trump. They are truly flummoxed.


88 posted on 06/17/2016 9:05:34 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Snowybear

He looks like a (barely) male version of Ellen DeGeneres.


89 posted on 06/17/2016 9:06:00 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agreed. I am sure more revelations about Hill and Bill will only help Trump.


90 posted on 06/17/2016 9:06:04 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This is a PARTIAL LIST. I have 3 more pages of these. But you get the idea. "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." ‑‑ Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." ‑‑ Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year." ‑‑ The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957

"But what ... is it good for?" ‑‑ Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip.

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." ‑‑ Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." ‑‑ Bill Gates, 1981

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." ‑‑ Western Union internal memo, 1876.

"The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular? ‑‑ David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s.

"The concept is interesting and well‑formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible." ‑‑ A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)

"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" ‑‑ H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.

"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary Cooper." ‑‑ Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in "Gone With The Wind."

"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make." ‑‑ Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." ‑‑ Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

"Heavier‑than‑air flying machines are impossible." ‑‑ Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.

"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." ‑‑ Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3‑M "Post‑It" Notepads.

"So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we' ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett‑Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" ‑‑ Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H‑P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer. [Ed note: To say their computer is not quite correct, it was designed by Wozniak's entirely.]

"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." ‑‑ 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.

"You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training." ‑‑ Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolveable" problem by inventing Nautilus.

"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy." ‑‑ Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.

91 posted on 06/17/2016 9:07:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: miss marmelstein

How do you find IMUS, on radio?

I have no home at all with TV programming now. It is unwatchable, except for Lou Dobbs and Hannity, and have stopped listening to the anti-TRUMP propaganda.

This election is going to have to be won on the ground, by TRUMP. There is virtually no air game available to him in the US market.

It’s a snake pit out there. I wish I were doing more for him, on the ground.


92 posted on 06/17/2016 9:10:37 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. PubYeslic education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: Grampa Dave

One big difference between now and 1980. The demographics of the country have changed. Considerably. The percentage of white voters is significantly smaller. Romney in 2012 actually won a higher percentage of the white vote than Reagan in 1980.


93 posted on 06/17/2016 9:12:16 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He's looking more like his dad every day.


94 posted on 06/17/2016 9:12:57 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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To: RitaOK

IMUS is national. Just look him up on Google. He’s hardly perfect either and if you’re kind of puritanical about stuff, he’s not for you.


95 posted on 06/17/2016 9:15:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Joe, two words for you:

Lori Klausatis.


96 posted on 06/17/2016 9:17:55 AM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

All the “experts” were predicating that Trump could not win during the primary yet he easily beat 16 “professionals”. Clinton is a criminal in many many ways. All Trump has to do is keep mentioning it.

$105 million in bribes (that we know of) just from the arabs. Involved in mass murder in Mexico. Sending weapons to terrorists while making money with Sid Blumenthal in Libya. It goes on and on.


97 posted on 06/17/2016 9:18:44 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: cba123

It is remembered that Joe and Mika were in the audience at one of Mr. Trump’s rallys and Mr. Trump acknowledged their presence there.

Joe must be a flip flopper, one of those ungendered persons unable to make up their mind.

Can’t lose too much sleep over anything Joe might be saying.


98 posted on 06/17/2016 9:19:45 AM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

For their propaganda that claims that Trump is going to lose bigtime, they sure spend a lot of time fussing about it.


99 posted on 06/17/2016 9:26:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Poll freakouts

From LS | 06/15/2016 6:34:46 PM PDT new

I have gotten some frantic messages about polls. Just two weeks ago, Trump had gained dramatically on Cankles in several polls, led in a couple, and now it’s the end of the world?

Let’s look at a few polls:

In May 2008, John McCain led Obama by 6, yet within a few weeks Obama led McCain by 9-—a 15 point swing.

In June 2012, Obama led Romney by 5 but Romney surged into a lead in October, then two ties.

In June 1992, Bush led Clinton by 6 in a three-way, but when Perot dropped out in July he led by 8. Then, suddenly, Clinton shot up to a 20 point lead in July. The final was a Clinton 6-pont advantage.

In June 1996, Clinton was beating Dole by 16, but the final was only 8.

In June 1976, Carter led Ford by 18, but the final was 2 and I think had the race gone on one more month Carter would have lost.

In June of 1988, Dukakis led Bush by 17 in two different polls-—and ended up losing by 17 (that’s a 34 point flip, folks).

In June of 1984, Reagan led Mon-Dull by 9 . . . but ended up winning by 18-—double the polling estimate.

In June 1980, Jimmy Carter led Reagan by 7, but lost by 10 (a 17 point swing).

Nixon led McGovern by 16 in June of 1972-—but won by 23.
Humphrey led Nixon by 5 in June, but lost in a tie (Nixon gained 5 points).

Everyone remembers the Goldwater blowout, right? 23? Except in June LBJ was beating him by 56.

Although JFK won in 1960, it was a popular vote tie, and he had led Nixon by 4 in June.

Likewise Ike won reelection by 17 . . . but had led in June by 27. It was worse in 1950: Ike led by 28 in June, but won by only 11, a rather massive error.

The bottom line is that June polls are more likely to tell us who will LOSE by who is ahead in June.

Now, the polls that have come out have been mostly without any internals. We don’t know who is being polled.

For now, I would not get too concerned, unless you are Cankles.


100 posted on 06/17/2016 9:26:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (La Raza thugs in America are Mexico's form of Isis terrorism/terrorists/invaders!!)
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