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Reminder From Former Israeli Ambassador: The 9/11 Terrorists Didn’t Have Guns
Townhall.com ^ | June 17, 2016 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 06/17/2016 7:31:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

The 9/11 terrorists could have cared less about America’s gun-free zones, former Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren suggested during his conversation with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Thursday morning. The two weighed in on Sunday’s Orlando tragedy, as well as lawmakers’ predictable call for gun control.

In his remarks, Oren did accede some points to the gun control lobby, arguing that in Israel few citizens own guns and yet they’ve managed to fight terror for years. Yet, he quickly noted that if a terrorist has plans to murder someone, gun laws are not going to stop him or her. September 11, 2001 is an extreme example.

“I think that if a terrorist wants to get a gun, a terrorist is going to get a gun,” Oren said. “And the people that took down the Twin Towers in 9/11 didn’t have guns at all. And a plane can be a weapon, too.”

The more we learn about the Orlando massacre, the more we realize that gun control legislation did nothing to stop Omar Mateen in his cold-blooded tracks. He passed a background check mandated by the federal government and he bought his guns legally. Yet, he still walked into a gay nightclub in Orlando and murdered almost 50 innocent people. 

Many Americans have used their firearms in self-defense. 

Yet, that hasn’t stopped media outlets from publishing anti-gun propaganda and congressmen from filibustering all night to scale back Americans’ Second Amendment rights.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Israel; US: Florida; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; election2016; florida; guncontrol; guns; gunscontrol; israel; isreal; michaeloren; newyork; orlando; secondamendment; terrorism; trump; waronterror

1 posted on 06/17/2016 7:31:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There are a myriad of items that can be weaponized to chose from. That in fact can cause even more destruction and death then the gun, and they are even more readily available.


2 posted on 06/17/2016 7:35:31 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Kaslin
in Israel few citizens own guns

What?

3 posted on 06/17/2016 7:36:54 AM PDT by marron
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To: Robert DeLong

Most of the cab drivers in Israel had pistols. There were plenty of concealed weapons in Israel. Who do you think have shot the terrorists with knives.


4 posted on 06/17/2016 7:38:17 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Kaslin

Neither did the Boston marathon bombers.


5 posted on 06/17/2016 7:45:45 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: marron

I have no idea if they do or not, but it seems to me the ambassador would know


6 posted on 06/17/2016 7:47:04 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: marron

Children in Israel cut their teeth on Guns


7 posted on 06/17/2016 8:01:15 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

Neither did Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer and most other serial killers.


8 posted on 06/17/2016 8:07:40 AM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: Kaslin

Sounds nuts but seems true. I bet there are a lot of licenses issued to those in Judea and Sumeria. A lot!

“There is an essential difference between the two. In America the right to bear arms is written in the law, here it’s the opposite... only those who have a license can bear arms and not everyone can get a license.”


9 posted on 06/17/2016 8:11:36 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: butlerweave

Agreed. While there may be strict provisions on firearms ownership in Israel, with licencing and registration, it is a civic duty/responsibility there (at least that is my impression, correct me if I am wrong in that assessment). Youngsters there and also in Switzerland go to rifle training on a regular basis, serve in the military, have teachers in their pubic schools who carry firearms, etc.

Generally, these and other things about Israeli civic duty and responsibility would probably be at odds with many liberal minds in North American megapolitan areas.


10 posted on 06/17/2016 8:13:04 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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11 posted on 06/17/2016 8:23:54 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Robert DeLong

It was a group of Saudi dandies, in the main, who hijacked four jets. Dabblers in western “sins”, they were well prepared to seek repentance through martyrdom.


12 posted on 06/17/2016 8:27:55 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Kaslin; marron
Gun ownership in Israel is highly restrictive. An old link from JPFO, Firearms in Israel. The laws have been liberalized a bit since then, but not all that much. I've read about 5% of Israelis own firearms. Low ownership, though higher than concealed carry permits in US. It's reasonable to assume those obtaining permits carry their weapons, typically openly, so you see weapons frequently.
13 posted on 06/17/2016 8:29:33 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

There are lots of armed soldiers and police all over the place, though.


14 posted on 06/17/2016 8:46:57 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Kaslin
Reminder From Former Israeli Ambassador: The 9/11 Terrorists Didn’t Have Guns
Fortunate for them, neither did the flight crew or any law abiding passengers.
15 posted on 06/17/2016 8:57:57 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Maybe it's a good thing Paul Ryan never was a our Vice President.)
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To: Cecily

Yes. And in the US in our wildest dreams we wouldn’t allow active duty or reserve military to be armed.


16 posted on 06/17/2016 9:08:29 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Kaslin
 photo ISRAELI TEACHERS PROTECT KIDS copy_zpsepxxxd88.jpg

17 posted on 06/17/2016 9:28:08 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: SJackson

Since Israel has a citizen military rather than a strictly professional one, their armed soldiers are sort of the equivalent of open carry citizens here (not the same but similar). I don’t think the Israelis worry about their armed forces turning on them the way we do.


18 posted on 06/17/2016 9:29:42 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Kaslin
I forgot to ANSWER the rhetorical question posed in that graphic.

The answer is SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE MORE GOVERNMENT SCHOOL "SHOOTINGS" (OR FALSE FLAGS, DEPENDING ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE) SO OBOZO (or, GOD FORBID, HILLARY) CAN APPEAL TO THE MILLIONS OF DUMB ASSES OUT HERE (aka HER SUPPORTERS!) FOR REMOVAL OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT!

And where did all those DUMB ASSES COME FROM? FROM THE SAME GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!

 photo GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS SMALL_zpswplliyxl.jpg

This is a crisis we'd better get a handle on before it's too late -- if it isn't already!

19 posted on 06/17/2016 9:34:13 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Kaslin
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

NAZIs killed people. Kamikazes killed people. Soviets killed people. I have never met a gun that killed someone. However, I have met murderers that used guns, knives, gas chambers, and planes to kill people.
20 posted on 06/17/2016 9:43:59 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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