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FBI Counter-Intelligence Up for Grabs?
Washington Free Beacon ^ | Bill Gertz

Posted on 06/14/2016 3:13:14 PM PDT by Thud

""Myers said the Orlando attack was a “catastrophic failure” for the FBI and showed its policies, procedures, and resources are inadequate to the mission of homeland security.

“This has to change now or a new organization, mandated to defeat this domestic threat, must be organized and fielded,” he said.'"


(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fbi; fbi4islamicterror; fbitreason; hillary; noaccountability; terror
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Bill Gertz' latest column has a tid-bit indicating that the wolves are circling around the FBI's counter-intelligence mission. See the quote above.

I doubt that the FBI failure concerning the Orlando terrorist attack was the last straw, though. The article explains a systemic "don't look" 9/11 type failure, though the latter was due to Jamie Gorelick's imposition of a wall between national security organizations to prevent an investigation of Bill Clinton's sales of favors to foreigners. Which included sale of national security secrets to at least the Chinese government.

The Orlando failure was due mostly, or almost entirely, to straight lefty political correctness plus moral failure by non-lefty officials. This does not excuse the FBI here, but giving the majority of its budget to a new organization seems excessive unless there is something else going on.

And the No. 1 suspect there is a decision by FBI Director Comey not to recommend Hillary's indictment. Sure this is speculation on my part. But something is going on.

I personally have advocated creation of a new domestic national security organization, without arrest power, since 9/11. There simply is a flat-out contradiction between the necessary mind-sets for law enforcement vs. national security.

But I've also noticed a growing feeling for months that an FBI decision not to recommend Hillary's indictment would be the final straw for elimination, during the next GOP administration, of its national security role.

The FBI's failure in Orlando is a great opportunity for the FBI's rivals to accomplish this. IMO that is what is going on here. Comey has decided, for whatever reason, not to recommend Hillary's indictment. And the wolves are now taking dibs.

Fire away, and please let us know what you really think.

1 posted on 06/14/2016 3:13:14 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud

The mission of DHS? ??

I’d suspect it is bring them in,hear no evil see no evil.


2 posted on 06/14/2016 3:16:04 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Still binary in all the right ways.)
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To: Thud

Thank Obama for the failure. It reflects what he and SJW Holder turned it into. Lynch obviously must be dragging her feet on the Hillary “investigation”. It’s a pathetic joke.


3 posted on 06/14/2016 3:16:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Thud

What’s the point in tapping everyone’s phones, monitoring of internet use and credit card purchases, when you’re going to look the other way in the name of political correctness?

Ft. Hood shooter, same deal. Guy acting like a loon for a long time but never pursued anything in the name of PC.


4 posted on 06/14/2016 3:21:39 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

He’d been to the bar at least a dozen times on his own. He was gay! His wife spoke about him in Brazil. Even his father called him gay. Wife said she told the FBI, and they told her;

” “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”


5 posted on 06/14/2016 3:25:24 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Thud

The FBI cannot protect us when hordes of legal and illegal immigrants from hell holes around the globe invade our nation and pollute our culture.

The Orlando attack demonstrates its been going on for generations. The Afghan father who spawned Omar the gay, muzzie, ISIS terrorist, democrat should be a wake up call.


6 posted on 06/14/2016 3:29:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Thud

No new organization.

If the current ones cant handle it, fire people until they can.


7 posted on 06/14/2016 3:30:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Thud

Creating yet another organization and layers of bureaucratic inefficiency when one group fails is the American way. I prefer exposing those who caused the failure, replacing them with capable people, and reforming the FBI.

Q. Now who has destroyed effective counterterrorism via Politically Correct restrictions on all US security agencies?
A. Barack Obama.
Q. Who will be in charge of any new organization?
A. Barack Obama.
Q. Chances of anything but more failure from an new organization under Obama or Hillary’s thumbs?
A. Zero, but it will kick the can down the road.

The talk about taking counter-terrorism away from the FBI might well be a threat not to indict Hillary. “Nice FBI ya got there — would be a shame if something happened to it.”


8 posted on 06/14/2016 3:30:52 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

...He’d been to the bar at least a dozen times on his own. He was gay! His wife spoke about him in Brazil. Even his father called him gay. Wife said she told the FBI, and they told her;

” “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”.....

I would be interested to know if the FBI spoke to her before or got this information elsewhere when they took him off the watch list,,,


9 posted on 06/14/2016 3:34:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: rolling_stone

Believe “after”.


10 posted on 06/14/2016 3:40:18 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Thud

This idiot cannot prosecute Hillary without Obama too. Both emailed each other. Obama had to know od Clinton’s server.


11 posted on 06/14/2016 3:40:32 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I guess he felt more comfortable in a place where he was used to whipping his gun out.


12 posted on 06/14/2016 3:45:15 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Thud

Interesting observation on the FBI, we’ll have to wait and see what pans out.

The Orlando episode was definitely badly botched by those on the scene though, local LEO if I understand correctly.

One of the first things that struck me was the ratio of dead to wounded, it was way too high, then it turns out that no first responders were allowed to enter until the perp had been dead for an hour, due to a fear of bombs/booby-traps.

I’m guessing that at least 15 to 20 people bled to death from that decision alone.

The mechanics of the stand-off don’t make sense either. I looked at a floorplan of the place, and counted 6 doors and a window. How does one gunman, talking on the phone no less, cover 6 exits in three rooms? How come he wasn’t jumped when popping in a new clip?

Guidelines for a stand-off like this are so cautious, that a lot more people die than necessary.


13 posted on 06/14/2016 3:48:27 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: Thud

I consider the FBI to be a state-sponsored terrorist organization. The hierarchy is brainwashing its agents to view patriotic Americans as terrorists.


14 posted on 06/14/2016 3:54:28 PM PDT by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: rolling_stone

http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/shooter-used-to-visit-orlando-gay-club-use-gay-dating-apps/


15 posted on 06/14/2016 3:59:09 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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Fire away, and please let us know what you really think.

FBI, Federal Bungling Incompetents.

16 posted on 06/14/2016 4:13:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Gunpowder green
The Orlando PD let the perp wander around inside for hours making certain everyone inside was dead.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641340/Im-Im-dead-Orlando-shooting-survivor-recounts-horror.html

"... He briefly thought he had escaped death, when the shooter turned his weapons on victims in another part of the club.

'He goes into the other room, and I can just hear more shots going on. I thought I was a little safe at this time because, you know, it's giving everyone time to tackle him down or get him down,' he said.

'Unfortunately, I hear him come back, and he's shooting everyone that's already dead on the floor. Making sure they're dead,' Colon said.

'I can hear the (gunshots) closer, and I look over and he shoots the girl next to me. And I'm just there laying down. I'm thinking, 'I'm next. I'm dead.''

The gunman shoots the already wounded Colon twice more, but somehow, the survivor said, 'by the glory of God, he shoots towards my head but it hits my hand.

'Then he shoots me again and it hits the side of my hip,' he recalled.

Colon was careful not to give away the fact that, despite having a half-dozen bullets lodged in his body, he was not dead.

'I had no reaction. I was just prepared to just stay there laying down so he won't know that I'm alive,' he said.

'And he's just doing this for another five, ten minutes. He's just shooting all over the place.'

The shooting continued, Colon said, until police who burst into the building traded fire with the gunman and rescued the survivors, three hours after the start of the ordeal."


17 posted on 06/14/2016 4:16:39 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud
If Obama sets it up maybe they can call the new "anti-terror" group the Federal Security Bureau, FSB for short. Ah Hell, might just as well go for broke and call itself the Gestapo. No one's used the name Geheime Staatspolizei in a very long time and it's just the thing (along with the leather trench coats) to strike fear in the TEA Party types.
18 posted on 06/14/2016 4:21:44 PM PDT by katana
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To: Thud

The Florida terrorist attack last weekend revealed multiple failures of Obama administration counterterrorism policies that critics say are hamstrung by liberal “political correctness.”


No, no, no, no, and NO!

The USGOV “failure to connect the dots” and “nothing to indicate [muslim] terrorism [again]” decade is over.

The ‘PC excuse’ half decade is over.

The USGOV ACTIVELY inserts these muslim terrorists into the remnant of America, specifically the CIA, State and FBI and then stares at their shoes when they do their bidding.

The USGOV, SPECIFICALLY the CIA (Brennan), SPECIFICALLY State (Kerry) and SPECIFICALLY the FBI (Comey) are deadly enemies to what’s left of America.

Every day these demonic POS wake up and see light is the very death of the remnant of America.

What’s left of America will only see increased death, increased Muslim attacks, and more BS and lies spewing forth from these bastard’s lying pie holes.

Get ready America, more death is coming your way, by specific design of USGOV.


19 posted on 06/14/2016 4:26:02 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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“The shooting continued, Colon said, until police who burst into the building traded fire with the gunman and rescued the survivors, three hours after the start of the ordeal.””

No teargas available?


20 posted on 06/14/2016 4:27:46 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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