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Let's not jump to conclusions about Orlando
vanity | 06-14-2016 | chuckles

Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles

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To: marron
Thank you for at least looking at what I was apparently inept at verbalizing. The attacks here seem to think I love Muslims or hate homosexuals or I don't even know what they think. I was merely trying to say don't be led around by your nose. Things are ignored and others emphasized to make the point that the media wants to make. This man worked for the government, was licences to carry, had no priors. He was, by law, able to buy these guns. If we pass a special law for this guy, how will it read? No guns to Muslims! What about the Muslim cops out there? Are we even allowed to think that homosexuals might be violent? Was Hitler's 3rd Reich involved with homosexuals?

The shooting of the church members in S. Carolina was finally resolved by banning the Confederate flag. Yep, that should save the day. But of course, Roof was an atheist punk filled with demons, who admitted he was racist, so the media classified him as Christian. All they could come up with was a picture of Roof with the "Stars and Bars", so that became the meme of the day. Many here see "Muslim" and their mind is shut down, so they quit looking. I say, Take in Muslim, take in homosexual, and keep looking. What if we find later he gave money to Obama? What if we find out Valerie Jarrett is from Iran? What if we find out Hillary has connections with the Muslim Brotherhood?

Naw, lets just hear "Muslim" and move on.

I agree that "Muslim" is the reason given, I just wonder if that's all we can know.

41 posted on 06/14/2016 3:09:22 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: x
....."we just have one guy's word for it that the killer was a regular at the club.".....

We also have his wife now. You see, there is more to find out.

42 posted on 06/14/2016 3:11:16 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Suvivors in the club report that the reason he gave, was that he wanted the US military to stop bombing his country. Textbook definition of terrorism, action intended to advance a political agenda.


43 posted on 06/14/2016 3:13:13 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RayChuang88

Only an idiot moron doesn’t know Mohamed had a 9 yo wife. They use that as a reason they are allowed to do almost anything they want with either sex. In Muslim villages, they all know who is abusing children, but seem not to care. They will beat a woman to death if they see her ankles, but take turns raping an 8 yo boy.


44 posted on 06/14/2016 3:14:58 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: tuffydoodle

He was looking at Disney also.


45 posted on 06/14/2016 3:27:21 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Yeah, I’m seeing more accounts now. The first guy alone wasn’t all that credible, but it’s getting harder to ignore.


46 posted on 06/14/2016 3:29:17 PM PDT by x
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To: fwdude
...."This attack is what the Floyd Corkins attack was meant to be.".....

Exactly! Thank God for a good guy with a a gun.

47 posted on 06/14/2016 3:30:34 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I suspect that if this post were made by a Noob, there’d be the smell of ozone in the air.


48 posted on 06/14/2016 3:31:40 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: chuckles
"... If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie. I don't have a problem over war with ISIS, but at least let's keep it for the right reasons.

That's ignorant, sir.

I contend that anyone who's been paying attention to our ongoing fight against radical Islam understands that homosexuality and radical Islam often go hand-in-hand. You can add 'mental illness' to mix and still be entirely correct. None of them individually preclude the other symptoms.

Otherwise, explain the following:

-- Any Western service member patrolling the tribal areas of Afghanistan and Iraq can tell you plainly about the evidence of homosexual and homosexual pedophilic relationships amongst both the jihadis as well as the people we're supposed to be 'allied' with against the terrorists. Oh dear, what some servicemen have seen through NVGs and thermal FLIR sights being conducted by jihadis during an operation -- and then they turn around and kill a US soldier they're embedded with. "Man/Boy Thursday", and so on, and even their platoon's own attached native interpreters and cultural liasions forging homosexual relations with one another. Learn what kind of contents are in the 'pocket litter' that US forces have found on dead jihadis during our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Even the NY Times reported on the huge porn stash found on Osama bin Laden's computers and thumb drives. So much for jihadi sexual ethics, right?

-- Didn't we just bear witness to a senior US Army NCO who was courts-martialed for beating the hell out of an ANG officer who had a slave boy chained up for sexual gratification purposes on a US military base in Afghanistan? That story isn't even a month old! It also wasn't a one-time thing, as we learned the US military had long standing orders from the State department to ignore the open display of selling boys by the locals and even bringing them on base. They had to pretend they were family relations or work apprentices.

-- Do I even need to remind you about the Afghan 'dancing boys' or how we found countless pictures of foreign jihadis in Kabul's photographic studios wearing women's makeup and snuggling romantically with their jihadi boyfriends during that Taliban's long rule there? There's whole websites and indie films devoted to this evidence.

-- What about the several fatwas decreed by senior mullahs in the Arab nations declaring that homosexual intercourse between jihadis was determined not to be haram (prohibited) as long as it was properly conducted during the waging of jihad? Did you forget that? Literal decree of acceptance of homosexual relations amongst the keepers of the Muslim faith.

-- Did you know that a great many Western-raised jihadi terrorists who have gone to Iraq and Syria to become fighters and suicide bombers for ISIS were said by the people who knew them from their homes in Sweden and the U.K. (etc.) were thought to be closeted latent homosexuals who had absolutely zero game with the womenfolk? Those stories are not few, sir. Go do some reading about how gay Muslim boyfriends decided to travel together abroad to become ISIS fighters. Several of the 9/11 hijackers were believed to be the same way with women and were hugely uncomfortable around the opposite sex in situations where there was any amount of sexuality on display. Go read about Mohammed Atta sometime.

-- Not well reported in Western media, but several of those gays executed by being thrown from the roof of an eight story building in Iraq were probably ISIS fighters. It's not like ISIS swooped up some likely homosexuals at a Baghdad gay nightclub or anything. At least some of the victims were from their own ranks, I'd read.

-- Golly, not that anyone can tell who is gay or not just by looking at them, but you might want to go take one look at the photographs of the Paris attacker Salah Abdeslam and tell me if you don't think he looks more like he belongs as a victim of the Orlando gay nightclub massacre than he does being a would-be suicide bomber.

-- Here in the USA, not only do we have the new murderous fiend in the Orlando massacre who is said to have been a self-loathing homosexual but please remembers years ago we saw the DC snipers of John Muhammad and Lee Malvo who were absolutely gay man/boy lovers bent on violent jihad. That's not even in question.

It is my suspicion that a great many of the jihadis originating from the socially and sexually repressed Arab cultures left home to go wage war for Al-Queda/ISIS/ISIL, etc. because they were a huge embarrassment to their families back home because of their suspected homosexuality despite whether its true or not that they're really gay. If a young man cannot bear to live a miserable life as a closeted homosexual in the worst part of the world to be identified as gay, then they'll sacrifice themselves as a suicide bomber or die in battle against the hated Western crusaders so as to bring honor back unto the family name. This would be quite a lot like how families in the Middle Ages in Western Europe sent their finocchio sons to the Catholic priesthood and their butch daughters off to be with the rest of the lesbian nuns in a distant convent. Perfect cover, you see, and forevermore their family's shame will not only be hidden in a far off place but will be regarded in their community back home as something to be respected and esteemed. Is this too hard for you to believe? Look at the evidence!

I'll say this much: Being an Arab homosexual certainly doesn't automatically make someone a radical Muslim terrorist, but I think there's pretty strong evidence that being a radical Muslim terrorist may have something to do with being medication for their own self-loathing homosexuality in a great many cases. Sure seems strange how they can just erupt into 'Sudden Jihadi Syndrome' after apparently living a secular life and only after they've committed some foul act here or abroad do we learn that the quiet loner was a hugely emotional train wreck struggling with significant personal conflict by everyone who had contact with them.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go elsewhere to write a screed explaining to pudding heads that if some Muslim loner commits an act of terror and self-identifies an affiliation with a known international terrorist group that we should probably believe they were being genuine about it -- especially if the terror group themselves welcomes their act as one of their own deeds. It seems that some people still believe that Al-Quaeda/ISIS is a brick and mortar location with an official membership club and not a shadowy electronic recruiting presence based upon the world wide web. You know, that their recruits must satisfy some conditions of employment such as traveling to Syria and having themselves photographed wearing a chest rig and holding an AKM in front of a mud-caked Toyota truck with their index finger pointing skyward and demonstrate physical fitness by traversing the monkey bars and stepping fleetly through truck tires at a desert training camp.

I swear, it's like some people haven't paid a lick of attention to the evolutionary changes of the radical Islamist movement over the last decade and a half.

49 posted on 06/14/2016 3:40:16 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: chuckles

He’s muslim.

Muslims have open and extreme hostility to homosexuality, even though the practice of it is ingrained in their culture.

He has made the pilgrimage to Mecca.

He was overjoyed at the events of 9/11.

He killed people while invoking Allah.

The West is, and has been at war with Islam, even though they have declared war on us and we are burying our heads in the sand just as thoroughly suicidal as we can.

I am not going to pile on you, because I believe institutional memory is important to an entity like Free Republic (which is something you provide) but I don’t understand the vanity thread you started.

There are enough people on FR that can think for themselves, and I can guarantee you that there are huge numbers of them here that aren’t being “led by the nose” by the Media, quite the contrary. I think it would be wise to keep in mind that a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.


50 posted on 06/14/2016 4:35:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Embrace your Curmudgeonliness.)
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To: rlmorel

“I think it would be wise to keep in mind that a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.”

Methinks Bill Clinton might disagree with you.

5.56mm


51 posted on 06/14/2016 4:39:13 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

LOL, WHY do you have to drag Bill Clinton into this...


52 posted on 06/14/2016 5:45:25 PM PDT by rlmorel (Embrace your Curmudgeonliness.)
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To: chuckles

I knew homosexuals were screaming, because they can’t give blood, if they’re sexually active, but didn’t know they were going to change the law. I think 16% of homosexuals have HIV, but they believe a vaccine will appear tomorrow. HIV causes them to age 14 years, which, I assume, means they die 14 years early. Plus, PrEP causes them to be more likely to have a heart attack. PrEP doesn’t prevent HIV-associated neurocognitve disorder, which leads to dementia. They expect gene-editing to lead to a cure, but they’ve discovered it makes HIV worse. I guess they want everyone to suffer, plus, if everyone suffers from dementia, they’ll legalize child sex sooner.


53 posted on 06/14/2016 6:30:11 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Carthego delenda est
Yeah, I was feeling the burn, but FR has changed over the last couple of years. FR used to welcome comments and would dialog with anybody over any subject. Ive been here since Clinton and his cigar, but this thing with Trump has made everyone here so touchy I barely feel welcome here anymore. I hate to think of what this place will be when his inner Democrat comes to the surface. He reminds me more of Geraldo than Reagan. I always admired FR people and their mass of knowledge about all subjects, but now, I don't know what has happened. The Bible speaks of scales over eyes. I guess the end is nearer than I knew.

Thanks for at least looking up when I joined.

54 posted on 06/14/2016 8:00:20 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Based on the responses here, I’m surprised at the number of people that must be part of the major media.


55 posted on 06/15/2016 5:53:00 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: chuckles

Since as a homosexual he was condemned to Hell by the Qur’an, but was guaranteed Paradise by killing Infidels, both factor into his decision. He assured himself his 72 virgins (His will be little boys, though) and avoids punishment.

Wait ‘til he finds out the truth: There is no Allah but Satan, and Muhammad was his murdering pedophile.


56 posted on 06/15/2016 8:14:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: hotsteppa
We are already at war with Islam.

Not quite. Islam is at war with US, but we have not yet begun to fight back.

57 posted on 06/15/2016 8:16:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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58 posted on 06/15/2016 8:16:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: joesbucks
Here is a little more of what I was trying to bring forward.

http://downstreampolitics.com/2016/06/15/orlando-killers-father-held-meetings-white-house/

There is almost always a story that isn't told the first few days. The FBI knows him but does nothing? Dad is friends with Obama? Does Trump know about this?

59 posted on 06/15/2016 8:45:44 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
Thanks for at least looking up when I joined.

No need to look up; resting the mouse cursor over the screen name displays the date of registration.

60 posted on 06/15/2016 8:46:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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