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Why pick a gay nightclub?
vanity | steve8714

Posted on 06/13/2016 5:20:55 AM PDT by steve8714

Islamic militants will try to choose targets to fragment us and make it easier to divide and conquer us. While I have no respect for the homosexual lifestyle and find it rather desperately sad, these are our brother and sister Americans, and we must defend them with every ounce of our being, even as if we were defending a school full of innocent children. Not by trite, half-hearted calls for "common sense" gun control, (read; confiscation of legal arms)but by vigilance and strength at the frontiers of our Nation, and by the impartial and vigorous enforcement of our laws. If we stand together with all Americans, that means including those whose lifestyles we find abhorrent.


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To: winner3000
"Unlike the radical Muslims who want to kill them. I don’t know what it will take to get them to see the truth."

There is nothing that can make them see the "truth" about
behavior. The Creator himself said that he has given them up. They themselves have chosen to be blinded to reality.

41 posted on 06/13/2016 5:52:11 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: KenD
I’m concerned that the Twitter graphic in this image may be faked.

The image isn't faked but the account is new.

42 posted on 06/13/2016 5:54:00 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: libertylover
Why didn’t they run? Why didn’t they charge at him?

Sheep mentality. And, quite possibly, at 2 AM in a nightclub, they were in no condition to be thinking rationally.

43 posted on 06/13/2016 5:54:24 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Veni accipe eam.)
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To: steve8714
Why a gay nightclub?

1. Obama enables Muslim extremists and urges their relocation to U.S.

2. Obama encourages homosexuality.

Do you see any conflict between religious zealots and homosexuals? 1 + 2 = MANUFACTURED CRISIS leading to:

3. Gun control.

This is, by the way, the order and importance Obama listed them in his statement yesterday, the first being least important and the last being most emphasized. Now what does jihad, the gay agenda and gun control have in common? All three are a violation of nature. Homosexuality is an act of defiance against nature. Disabling an individual from defending them self is a violation of natural law. Jihad / murder is the ultimate aggression against nature. Barack Hussein Obama you are a monster and a friend of the enemy.

44 posted on 06/13/2016 5:56:11 AM PDT by conservativeimage (I won't go underground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: 2banana
Perhaps a perceived soft target. 2AM, gays perceived to be less willing or able to defend themselves, lots of drinking and other behaviors that would have their guard down.

I don't see how gays can defend hillary anymore. It's impossible to increase the numbers who embrace radical Islam priorities and have them coexist in an environment where gays openly express their lifestyles.

And in this situation, there were mostly hispanic victims. I wonder how hispanics feel about being collateral damage.

45 posted on 06/13/2016 5:59:15 AM PDT by grania
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To: 2banana

A gay nightclub represents a lot of things Islam hates about the West all wrapped up in one package... music, gays, alcohol, weak-mindedness, and people of European descent.


46 posted on 06/13/2016 5:59:50 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Wisdom is doing due diligence before forming an opinion)
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To: Nifster

Pretty sure I heard former Senator Kerrey say that he was a SG at the club. This was on FBN this am.


47 posted on 06/13/2016 6:00:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: steve8714

I agree with your assessments.


48 posted on 06/13/2016 6:02:24 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: steve8714
A nightclub because in Florida bars and such are legally gunfree zones. Florida is NOT "ahead" of the gun rights curve.
Homosexual establishment in a city like Orlando because there will be many people there and however many homosexuals there in the place the chance that any of them will do anything but run or cower is rather smaller than that chance in a hetero establishment. The chance that there will be patrons illegally armed is also vanishingly small in a homosexual venue. A homosexual family friend of many years once took me and my wife to something called the White Fox in Tampa and I can see the opportunities that are clear in such a place that might not be so plain in another type of night spot.
49 posted on 06/13/2016 6:03:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: libertylover

Nothing fishy, it will take days to investigate and figure out the exact sequence of events, but I suspect it broadly looks like this:

He launched an attack on an unsuspecting target. Assault through the outer perimeter (likely just a bouncer and an off-duty cop, its just a club). He doesn’t need to kill them, just get inside where the darkness, crowd and chaos work to his advantage.

Once inside, he can fire indiscriminately and inflict maximum damage, there are literally targets everywhere. Evidently he slaughtered people trying to hide in one restroom, but didn’t get to the people cowering in the other. Confusion works both ways.

At some point (maybe 5-10 min), law enforcement shows up, it will take several minutes for them to figure out this is not just a gang shooting or equivalent scale event.

At some point he takes the remaining living people hostage, who are a combination of scared, trapped, intoxicated (drugs and alcohol), untrained, and confused as to what is going on.

About 3 hours after this whole thing starts, the police conclude they have to mount an assault and kill/capture him to minimize further casualties. They do and he is killed in the firefight.

Frankly, we are lucky that there were only 49 victims (#50 being the killer who is not a victim).


50 posted on 06/13/2016 6:04:19 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: libertylover
" Why didn’t they run? Why didn’t they charge at him? - ONE guy???"

The club had at least +100 people in it when the shooter arrived. There were big burly looking guys at the club (from looking at some of TV interviews of some of them.) Five or six people could have rushed the shooter. Hey, maybe 20 or thirty could have rushed him and beat the crap out of him before too many were shot. Yes some people may been have shot and killed but not fifty people!

What happened? I guess they ALL cowered under their tables or were too afraid to try and take the Muslim down.

Now we know why homosexuals shouldn't be in the military.
And yet we allow our society to badgered by them continually.

51 posted on 06/13/2016 6:04:32 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: winner3000

What you said. I will resist the homosexual agenda at every turn, but as the poster said, they are first Americans, and our enemy is Islam.


52 posted on 06/13/2016 6:05:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Helicondelta; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Holy ****, that is a helluva graphic, Helicondelta.
53 posted on 06/13/2016 6:07:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: wideminded
he must have spent some time casing the location previously

Several bits of info that were key to his plan.

Knowing optimal time to strike, knowing it was gun-free, knowing what the response would be (hostage-negotiating), knowing it was a gay bar, knowing the exits, etc.

Did gather all this himself (aka "lone wolf")?

Or did he have help?

54 posted on 06/13/2016 6:08:22 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: NorthMountain

An early story his dad told the media was that they were in Miami and gay guys were kissing each other in a public restaurant easily seen by his son. Then there was a bathroom encounter of the same which set him off his dad thinks.


55 posted on 06/13/2016 6:09:03 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: PapaBear3625; All
Schools? Read this:

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It's coming.

56 posted on 06/13/2016 6:10:48 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: steve8714

Perhaps they hit the gay club to blame it on right wing homophobes. A push for more gun control. Muslims want soft targets. Unarmed citizens are easy. Look at Europe, they can not defend themselves.. It is what we will be like if the Left have their way.. Heck we even pay for our own demise with our tax dollars.. The first thing Obama did was blame America’s gun owners before details of what happened..


57 posted on 06/13/2016 6:11:19 AM PDT by just me (GOD BLESS AMERICA Amen)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl
I've seen fags kissing in public, and I have been accosted by a faggot in a gymnasium locker room.

I didn't grab my rifle and go murder a bunch of fags.

This POS did.

I'm a Christian.

He was a mohammedan.

58 posted on 06/13/2016 6:14:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: steve8714

Why? Probably this … http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/13/former-co-worker-says-orlando-gunman-was-unhinged-and-unstable-went-on-racist-misogynistic-rants.html?intcmp=hpbt1


59 posted on 06/13/2016 6:14:16 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: steve8714

No, I’m not going to stand with the damned homos. These people and those that share their agenda have been attacking and destroying every single thing that I once valued about the country I lived in. They’ve turned the nation into a depraved, vomitous sewer. I’ve lost my country because of these evil bastards.

They are NOT my brothers and sisters. They are NOT my countrymen. They and the jihadists deserve each other.


60 posted on 06/13/2016 6:15:13 AM PDT by greene66
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