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The Japanese were trying to make an atomic bomb, too
American Thinker ^ | May 28, 2016 | Robert K. Wilcox

Posted on 05/28/2016 9:42:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: The KG9 Kid

The “Bomb” book is one of my all time favorites I had to read when home schooled. I must have read it several times and each time I learn something new. Now, I bet I can go to Home Depot and pick up the stuff I need to ......


41 posted on 05/28/2016 12:01:29 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Kaslin
Japan was and is much underestimated as a military power. One recent military historian has realized this - read _How the War was Won: Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II_ by Phillips Payson O'Brien.

https://www.amazon.com/How-War-was-Won-Cambridge-ebook/dp/B00VAOVM2A?ie=UTF8&qid=1464461696&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1

I know a Freeper who is slowly posting articles on the Okinawa campaign at the Chicago Boyz blog which are veering to a conclusion that the Japanese out-tech'ed the US Navy in that battle.

The USN never realized how the Japanese were breaking its IFF codes and monitoring American ground-based fighter-control radio traffic to get in surprise attacks on American ships. The Japanese also used long-range radar surveillance aircraft to the same purpose as well as to vector mass Kamikaze attacks.

They even had secret underwater cable communications between Okinawa and Kyushu which the US Marines did not break up until late in the Okinawa campaign.

Plus the Japanese Navy and Army cooperated quite effectively in the Okinawa campaign while US Navy parochialism and inter-service rivalry with the US Army (Navy refused to cooperate with the Army, and particularly with the Army Air Force) cost us thousands of lives and dozens of ships.

Japan's problem here was very limited engineering & construction resources. Their science and tech development was very high level.

They concealed this from American interrogators after the war, though some of this was due to the reluctance of US Navy interrogators to delve into embarrassing details concerning Okinawa.

42 posted on 05/28/2016 12:07:31 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Kaslin

There was a story about this on The History Channel, back when The History Channel actually had history.


43 posted on 05/28/2016 12:33:17 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Kaslin

Obama also ignores the fact that the USA is the only country or empire in the history of the world to have the world at its feet and not take it.

All developed countries that could be a threat to us were exhausted and running out of fuel and weapons by 1945. We could have taken whatever land or treasure we desired.

Instead we loan them money to rebuild.

Yeah, we suck.


44 posted on 05/28/2016 12:40:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Fiji Hill
For years, a story has been going around that Japan actually tested a nuclear device in what is now North Korea in August, 1945.

The attached article mentioned that. At the time, the Japanese concentrated all industrialization in North Korea, and South Korea was largely agrarian farmland. The Soviets grabbed factories and contents, and shipped them home, including the captured Japanese scientists.

45 posted on 05/28/2016 12:41:08 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kaslin

Just think, we get to to enjoy another round of Hiroshima/a-bomb articles in another two months!


46 posted on 05/28/2016 12:48:09 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Kaslin

More to the point. They were making chemical bombs after experiementing on US POWs. I have seen the picture of depleted Iris Of PoWs after being exposed in military books.

Also Unit 731 was that of biological arsenal being built to destroy the Us, using Chinese peasants of all ages and sex for experiment


47 posted on 05/28/2016 12:58:43 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: r_barton
There have been news stories in the past that the Nazi’s and Japanese were not even close to making a working atomic bomb.

The BS from the totally ignorant.

Where are the links?

There are rumors also that the Japanese had a test detonation in (occupied Korea) just days before the Hiroshima reality knock...

But I wouldn't consider it hard news.

48 posted on 05/28/2016 1:13:05 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: tophat9000

What the hell you talking about?..I heard Rush roast Obama at length over his Hiroshima visit


Yes, he roasted Obama. i was referencing his never mentioning anything about the Japanese researching an atomic weapon of their own. I would think that he or his researchers would at least be aware of the American Thinker article, like many of us on FR .


49 posted on 05/28/2016 1:42:26 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Doesn't matter, ultimately -- the US finished first, and was one thousand percent justified in dropping both those nukes on Japan. Imagine -- there are people STUPID enough to think that Japan was ready to surrender without our having to use those bombs, when, number one it took A SECOND ONE to convince them, and number two, conventional firebombing had already turned over forty Japanese cities to ash prior to the Hiroshima drop. Thanks Kaslin.

50 posted on 05/28/2016 3:35:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: mkjessup

Thanks for the link!


51 posted on 05/28/2016 4:31:40 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: patriotspride

The Japanese Atomic research also their biological germ warfare research and use of it in China and the fact the Army tried to prevent the emperor from surrendering are all common knowledge I don’t know if he really needed to go into it


52 posted on 05/28/2016 4:41:40 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: roadcat
IIRC the History Channel show also mentioned the alleged Japanese A-bomb test. The show mentioned that the Japanese Navy and Army, which certainly were competitors and poorly co-ordiated on many subjects during the war, had completely separate atomic programs. The oft cited evidence of there having been virtually no atomic program was from the US capture of one, but alleged test was from the other, which given the Korean location would have been captured by the Soviets. Without re-watching the show I don't recall which was which. However this should be testable, given the evidence such bombs leave behind. I don't know whether we've ever had access to the site (perhaps had some during the Korean war), but there probably would still be evidence there now. Another alleged atomic incident that should be testable is the claim (in Red Star Rogue) that renegade Soviets fired a sub lunched nuke at Hawaii from its far western islands in the late 60s, only to have it go off prematurely. RSR reads like a good Clancy story, but claims to be truth rather than fiction which would be very scary. Rather than begging release of fancied UFO files folks should be begging the release of any US files on both. Privately checking out the alleged Korean site probably isn't currently possible, but privately checking out the alleged Hawaiian launch site should be. Seventy, and nearly fifty, years in the past the principles can't be embarrassed by releasing the truth on either, but the public needs to know the truth on both.
53 posted on 05/28/2016 5:45:00 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: Kaslin

Both Germany and Japan had nuclear programs. If they had the bomb, they would have used it.

5.56mm


54 posted on 05/28/2016 5:54:31 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Gay State Conservative

Netflix—The Heavy Water War

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3280150/faq


55 posted on 05/28/2016 6:30:36 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Kaslin

Americans were guilty of intellectual property theft! < /s >


56 posted on 05/29/2016 6:59:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: r_barton

Dirty bombs are a farce. Only effect is fear and the hassle of decon. Big deal.


57 posted on 05/29/2016 12:04:59 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: eastforker; atc23
There was no way Germany could win after the US got involved. The shows just how insane Hitler was thinking he could defeat everyone.
I can argue that both ways. Buttressing your point is the fact that altho the US had little military inventory in 1941, that was in a real sense a half truth. In reality, ever since the May 1940 Fall of France the US had been deeply concerned about the war in Europe, and fearful of the effects any fall of Britain (with its famous navy) could have on US security. Consequently the US had been gearing up for military production for a year and a half at the time of Pearl Harbor. That included the well-known infusion of technology from Britain (RADAR, jet engines, and more, including the plans for the Merlin engine) and the manufacture of long-lead-time items like machine tool inventory and factory buildings.

At the moment Hitler was declaring war on the US, US military inventory was slim, because the US had been channeling as much military aid is it could muster to Britain. But US military production was just beginning to take off, and over the course of the war it dwarfed that of Germany and Japan.

But if I wanted to argue against the inevitability of US victory, I could point out that the Me 262 jet aircraft would have been available to the Luftwaffe much earlier with more foresight by Goering and Hitler. And as it was, Eisenhower would hardly agreed with the inevitable victory thesis on D-Day, when he carried around a letter announcing the failure of the invasion and taking full responsibility for that failure. It was a close-run thing.

In addition, Churchill worried continually about the possibility that the Germans might tumble to the fact of “Magic.” Without “magic,” the allies would have had a much harder time of it.


58 posted on 05/29/2016 5:10:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

What I meant was, if Europe had fallen to Hitler and we had to retreat , it would have only been momentarily. There was no way Hitler could have attacked the USA and in short order, Berlin would have been in ruins, just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.


59 posted on 05/29/2016 7:16:33 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Kaslin

They wanted trouble; they got some.


60 posted on 05/29/2016 9:50:36 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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