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The Japanese were trying to make an atomic bomb, too
American Thinker ^ | May 28, 2016 | Robert K. Wilcox

Posted on 05/28/2016 9:42:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

In all the press about Obama visiting Hiroshima, Japan, where the U.S. dropped the first atomic bomb on its enemy in 1945, not one word has surfaced about the fact that the Japanese were, at the same time, working on their own atomic bomb, and would have used it on Americans had they been able. Nor has anything been said about the fact that they were much closer to making an atomic bomb than most Americans know.

The Japanese had begun a program to develop a “uranium” bomb even before the sneak attacked on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, killing some 2000 Americans and starting war with America. They had top scientists working on their atomic bomb, including a future Nobel-prize winner, Hideki Yukawa. Over the course of the war they spent millions on the program, hunting uranium, building crucial separators, designing a workable bomb, and elevating their program to a top priority at the end of the war as they frantically sought “miracle” weapons with which to turn the tide going against them. Had America not used its atomic bombs and instead invaded the Japanese mainland, the Japanese were planning to use atomic weapons on the invasion fleet, which certainly would have been devastating. Kamikazis had been bad enough. Imagine if they had been armed with nuclear weapons.

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To: Kaslin
Boo freaking Hoo! Lots more were killed with conventional weapons. Does it really matter if 100,000 die all at once or many more over the course of conventional bombing?

They started it and we finished it. End of story.

21 posted on 05/28/2016 10:12:38 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s a question. Couldn’t the Germans and Japanese at least make dirty (radioactive) bombs? Maybe they didn’t have enough radioactive materials to even do that.


22 posted on 05/28/2016 10:12:56 AM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: I want the USA back
That arrogant pos never deserved to be president in the first place. January 20th can't come soon enough.
23 posted on 05/28/2016 10:15:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: eastforker

If Germany had won the war, I wonder if they would have eventually turned on Japan.....


24 posted on 05/28/2016 10:16:49 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (#HillaryForPrison-2016)
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To: Hot Tabasco

There was no way Germany could win after the US got involved. The shows just how insane Hitler was thinking he could defeat everyone.


25 posted on 05/28/2016 10:22:07 AM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Kaslin
Building the Atlantic wall and the "vengeance" weapon program bankrupted the Third Reich both momentarily and caused a brain drain. There was no brain power left for the "bomb" development.

V-2 was a hell of a missile though.

26 posted on 05/28/2016 10:22:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
One of my clients was involved in all this. He said they were within weeks of beating us.

While my memory is a little vague, the urgency was great beyond belief.

I'm 72. He was probably my age when he told me the story and that's almost 30 years ago.

27 posted on 05/28/2016 10:24:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Not to mention the jet fighters and guided missiles found after the war readied to stop the expected US invasion - all of which the US had no counter and would have sunk many capital ships.


28 posted on 05/28/2016 10:28:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Kaslin

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_einstein_letter.htm


29 posted on 05/28/2016 10:31:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: r_barton

Bomb or not they were planning on using bio weapons delivered by subs.


30 posted on 05/28/2016 10:31:48 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Kaslin
Neither Germany nor Japan were anywhere close to making an atomic bomb. Read: "The Making Of The Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes.

There's a fascinating chapter on the discovery of Germany's "atomic bomb" and Japan's. Basically Germany's atomic bomb was some uranium percolating inside a cast iron pot submerged in some heavy water in a well; Japan's scientists needed some sort of electronic tube that was scarce and the navy had control over them since they were needed for some shipboard type stuff.

Niels Bohr, the Danish Nobel Peace prize in atomic studies (or something) said that America would have to turn itself into one gigantic factory to build a bomb. If you read the book, you'll find out that is exactly what we did.

31 posted on 05/28/2016 10:43:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Fiji Hill

Streifer doesn’t believe an atomic bomb was ever tested in Hamhung. In an email correspondence he wrote,

``I have personally interviewed an allied prisoner of war who was about five miles away at the time. He didn’t recall an explosion at sea. I also read the diaries of other POWs, and they make no mention of an explosion at sea. If an atomic bomb explodes five miles away, you’ll know it!’’


32 posted on 05/28/2016 10:49:32 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: eastforker
There was no way Germany could win after the US got involved. The shows just how insane Hitler was thinking he could defeat everyone.

Maybe . but if Operation Overlord failed,which was a real possibility, the National Socialists might have had time to build and test an atomic weapon on the allies.

Best to be safe and kill them all which they were very fortunate we didn't do - same for the Japs.

33 posted on 05/28/2016 11:03:11 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Kaslin

The japs fought on after the first bomb. The military wanted to keep fighting after the second bomb but their living god demanded the surrender. Even then they made plans to attack the Allied fleet when it anchored in Tokyo bay in the hopes that their living god would change his mind.


34 posted on 05/28/2016 11:11:49 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: r_barton

I have heard what you report; i.e. that the Japs and Germans were off on the wrong path.


35 posted on 05/28/2016 11:13:12 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: sparklite2
The supposed Japanese nuclear weapons test probably didn't happen, but Robert Wilcox also discusses the issue in his book Japan's Secret War (New York: Morrow, 1995)
36 posted on 05/28/2016 11:13:15 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: patriotspride
What the hell you talking about?..I heard Rush roast Obama at length over his Hiroshima visit

Rush made a specific point and was particularly P.O. about Obama doing his grovel at this time saying it was a deliberate act on our Memorial Day weekend to offer apologies to enemy War dead just to put a little extra insult to the American public.. as opposed to Obama being here one Memorial Day honoring OUR war dead

37 posted on 05/28/2016 11:16:02 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: SkyDancer

You reference the Pulitzer-winning book I was about to mention in regard to the Axis atomic program. Neither the Germans nor Japanese were anywhere close to constructing a fissionable bomb package and these efforts were the first thing Allied investigators sought to learn about when these enemies surrendered.

The Germans intended their atomic program effort based at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute to serve as a means of Naval propulsion or energy production; for a fissionable bomb they knew enough to perform the necessary theoretical calculations for the time and materials they’d need. They did the math, realized it was utterly hopeless, and gave up. All they had to show for themselves after the surrender of the Third Reich was an experimental nuclear pile which didn’t even meet pre-war achievements at the University of Chicago or UC Berkeley which were published in detail in science journals. Also, during the course of the war British MI-6 was doing heroic work in savaging the Nazi atomic fission program’s materiel resource accumulation. The Germans themselves did the most damage to their program by exiling all the top nuclear physicists from the Reich because they were non-Aryan: Fermi, Slizard, Meitner, Einstein, etc.

The Japanese effort was ultimately erased by the firebombing of Tokyo, but what evidence Allied investigators found in the rubble of Tokyo University amounted little more than an undergraduate’s chemistry set. Pre-war, they weren’t even in possession of a single gram of Radium in the manner that Marie Curie’s experiments required.

The Japanese physicists had endless trouble with the Imperial Japanese Navy and Army who saw the fission program as a silly diversion of budgetary capital and regarded the physicists in the program as a bunch of college eggheads who were unable to articulate any meaningful benefit in their research to the war effort. It hardly mattered since the Allied investigators realized the Japanese physicists were completely barking up the wrong tree in even constructing a functioning cyclotron for the Uranium separation method — another openly documented pre-war achievement journaled in science bulletins from Western nations. When the war ended, there were only one or two junior atomic physicists left alive in Japan to account to Allied investigators of their progress.

Neither the Germans or Japanese were going to possess an atomic bomb unless one was dropped on them by the Allies.


38 posted on 05/28/2016 11:40:05 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Thibodeaux

Damn straight.


39 posted on 05/28/2016 11:49:20 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Eventually. Yes.

External enemies are another focus of hatred for a regime.

And a place to get rid of troublesome internal potential rivals.


40 posted on 05/28/2016 11:51:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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