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Cruz's campaign is over, but his delegates fight on (Better call Saul)
LA Times ^ | May 21, 2016 | Seema Mehta & Melanie Mason

Posted on 05/22/2016 6:55:42 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

After Ted Cruz dropped out of the presidential race, his campaign staffers boxed up their mementos and souvenirs as they prepared to shutter the Houston headquarters, and the Texan announced that he would seek reelection to the U.S. Senate.

Yet Cruz’s team didn't abandon the race for the White House entirely. It still filed a slate of potential presidential delegates for California’s June 7 primary, and continues to monitor delegate selection in states that already voted in the GOP nominating process.

The end result is that Cruz will have more than 550 loyalists attending the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July — a ground force that helps him establish himself as the national leader of the conservative movement, protect the party's conservative platform from what the senator has called Trump's "New York values," and lay the foundation for a potential 2020 presidential bid.

(Excerpt) Read more at touch.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; 2020; blowup; callsaul; convention2016; cruz; cruzcontrol; cruzforourcountry; delegates; election2016; lyinted; newyork; saul; ted; tedcruz; trump; trumpwins
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To: mountainfolk

None of these guys care about their state, they just use a senatorial campaign to gain exposure and wealthy donors and backers. The senate campaign draws some worker-bees. It primes the drones to build the hive and they are there waiting for the next race-the bigger hive with all the honey.

BHO was the trail setter for this new brazen style: Jump into the Senate, take a quick breath, jump into the POTUS run.

Clinton would have done it as well, but as a carpetbagger & 1st term senator, it would have been too much.

See post #79 regarding your comment.


81 posted on 05/22/2016 12:27:30 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: vette6387

I get it that a lot of you don’t like Cruz.

But as far as a senator goes, he has one of the most conservative voting records of anyone in the senate.
As far as accomplishments...if the other GOP senators would vote as Cruz did or stand with him on certain bills then bad bills would have been stopped.
As far as bills getting passed...as far as I’m concerned the fewer bills passed in Washington, the better our lives are.


82 posted on 05/22/2016 12:39:03 PM PDT by kygolfman
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To: Mollypitcher1
YOU cannot defend your position with FACTS! We can. CASE CLOSED!

All-Caps don't make it right. You're still wrong.

83 posted on 05/22/2016 1:45:26 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kygolfman

Perry could be the one to challenge Cruz. Perry could raise the money and I think he is still more popular than Cruz is.


84 posted on 05/22/2016 1:50:23 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Man, Beautiful_Gracious_Skies, you really covered all the bases on sCruze!
He’s as superficial and crooked as is Obola! As for Tea Party “backing,” The Tea Party has dismal record in satisfactorily vetting candidates they support. Professing to be “A Conservative” and delivering meaningful conservative direction are two completely different issues. And sadly, we also see “religion” injected into their “vetting process.” While being “religious” is certainly a good attribute to have, it doesn’t necessarily qualify you to be a conservative standardbearer. But being honest, until he showed his true colors, I was a big fan of Ted sCruze. If you had asked me six months ago, what the GOP ticket should be, I would have said Trump/Cruz! My bad, and my bad for thinking after 911 that GWB was a “the real deal too.” So at the end of the day, I think we need more “citizen patriots” running for office than continually re-electing people who routinely lie to us as the build up years of “experience” as our elected leaders. I’d favor completely eliminating any retirement benefits to elective public office, together with halving the money we pay them, for openers. Maybe then we’d get people who want to “serve” instead of people who are simply there to “take from sa.”


85 posted on 05/22/2016 2:04:19 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: kygolfman

“I get it that a lot of you don’t like Cruz.

But as far as a senator goes, he has one of the most conservative voting records of anyone in the senate.”

Record? What Record? All he’s done in the Senate is 1) Piss everyone off, 2) use the place as a springboard to a Presidential nomination, and 3) show everyone his butt ugly face and make us listen to his “nails-on-a-blacboard” voice. Nobody “stood” with him because of #1 above. Ergo, he’s an ineffective legislator!


86 posted on 05/22/2016 2:37:21 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: okie01

I’m absolutely correct and I can use all caps for emphasis according to the Chicago Manual of Style.


87 posted on 05/22/2016 4:09:53 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: vette6387

1. Good... Including people like Mcconnell, Boehner, Graham, McCain.

2. So what...he’s not the first senator to run for president. In fact if I’m not mistaken we had 3 first term senators running.

3. Mike Lee stood with him when he was filibustering Obamacare.
I don’t care if no one stood with him.
He was right to do it...the GOP picked up seats in the next election...and behind the scenes stories said Cruz helped get rid of Boehner.

Do you stand up to do the right thing even if no one stands with you?
I would hope we all would.


88 posted on 05/22/2016 4:38:32 PM PDT by kygolfman
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To: Zenjitsuman

Perry: “I Don’t Think You Have a Heart” If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants

http://www.weeklystandard.com/perry-i-dont-think-you-have-a-heart-if-you-oppose-in-state-tuition-for-children-of-illegal-immigrants/article/594080


89 posted on 05/22/2016 4:48:17 PM PDT by kygolfman
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ..
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Check out article and # 53 , 69 , 72 , 79 .

Thanks, BGS.

90 posted on 05/22/2016 6:37:38 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: kygolfman

Sorry, Lyin’ Ted is an empty suit in my opinion, he’s completely untrustworthy and self-serving. I sincerely hope his political career is at an end. If Texas wants to keep him, fine, just keep him inside your borders. He has absolutely no business in national politics ever again! I’ve not seen as disgraceful a pol in many a year, and I’ve got 75 years under my belt.


91 posted on 05/22/2016 9:04:36 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
For all the talk of Ted winning delegates, guess who hasn't been awarded any new delegates...

Additional Reference / Covers Delegates Allotted to Date

Click on the graphic for the source. You can right click view, to see a larger version of a specific graphic.

92 posted on 05/23/2016 10:17:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ted Cruz is a fake and an “OATH” breaker... He cannot even keep the “OATH” of office he took as Senator from Texas.


93 posted on 05/23/2016 10:19:31 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I compare Ted’s performance as Texas’ Senator to others who have run while being a senator. He has held pretty much to the model.

What bothers me is that he is yet another first term Senator running for president. Who else can we think of who has recently done that? What did we think if him doing it? What had he accomplished?

What has Ted accomplished?

The similarities between these two, despite their polar opposites in political views, is uncanny.


94 posted on 05/23/2016 10:25:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I compare Ted’s performance as Texas’ Senator to others who have run while being a senator. He has held pretty much to the model. What bothers me is that he is yet another first term Senator running for president. Who else can we think of who has recently done that? What did we think if him doing it? What had he accomplished? What has Ted accomplished? The similarities between these two, despite their polar opposites in political views, is uncanny.

When one looks at Ted's actually work in the Senate it was not all that different than Rubio. The position of Senator appears to have been merely a stepping stone of 'hispanic' entitlement to have the office of president. Neither are Constitutionally eligible, and both are 'lawyers'... They appear to have the very same mindset as Obama. Their problem is there is NO groundswell to give the office of president to ineligible Cubans. In spite of the intelligence gadflies that have made a boat load of money, claiming they hold the keys to what is conservative.

95 posted on 05/23/2016 10:40:30 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Yes, I agree with that.

I will also say that I would appreciate a more frank assessment of Cruz’s citizenship. There is more than one realistic train of thought on it that challenges his claims to being a citizen.

I don’t think he is.


96 posted on 05/23/2016 10:45:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Yes, I agree with that.

I will also say that I would appreciate a more frank assessment of Cruz’s citizenship. There is more than one realistic train of thought on it that challenges his claims to being a citizen.

I don’t think he is.

[ natural born ]


97 posted on 05/23/2016 10:46:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I am born of two US citizens, but they birthed me in Germany... I am NOT a natural born US citizen. I have known this since I was required to pass the US Constitution test in what is now called ‘middle school’. Ted Cruz will never ever be a ‘natural born’ US citizen... Only two US citizen parents can bequeath this birthright to their children, born on US soil. It is part of ‘we the people’ government the framers established. And Ted Cruz knows full well what is the original intent of the framers... Obama got away with NOT being ‘natural born’ US citizen, why should not he.

I am yet to be convinced that Ted Cruz is actually a US citizen. He sure has not produced documentation how he got a US passport. And that Canadian birth certificate is NOT demonstrative of US citizenship.

98 posted on 05/23/2016 11:05:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: DoughtyOne

How would the Cuban Missile Crises (not mistress crises) or the Bay of Pigs invasion been handled differently with a Cuban born or candidate born of Cuban nationals?

Or FDR had been born in Germany?

Or Truman was born of Japanese nationals?

Or hussein was born in the Middle East or Indonesia?

Their perspectives and POV is not necessarily to Put America First.

Conflicted loyalties are a problem, as we see, right now, here today.

Once you fully dilute the potus qualifications, there’s no turning back.

We are the USA, not the UN.


99 posted on 05/23/2016 3:35:50 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Just mythoughts

About the citizenship, there is a case to be made there IMO.

I agree with your take on things, but I may not be as rigid about born on foreign soil to two citizens of the U.S. Doesn’t mean I’m right though.


100 posted on 05/23/2016 7:33:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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