Posted on 05/21/2016 9:55:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
A proposal to include women in the military draft, supported in Congressional testimony by the heads of the Marine Corps and Army, was stripped from the National Defense Authorization Act by a close vote of the House Rules Committee this week. But agitation for universal military conscription will continue, sometimes from the left, so “so that Americans ‘feel the burden’ of ongoing military operations against Islamic militants, will not go away.”
After 23 years of military service, it is clear to me that a universal draft is not essential, and indeed would be harmful to our national security.
Asking everyone to serve would be a disaster. Assume you put in a draft of “every” high school graduate. Approximately 3.9 million people turn 18 each year in the United States. Say of those, 80% are “fit” for military service (i.e., meet height/weight requirements, no issue with narcotics use, no criminal issues), you are talking of induction of 3.2 million people a year. This is a World War II level of forced public service when we are not at war with major powers.
If this is a two-year draft enlistment (what was used in Vietnam, as opposed to “the duration” during WWII), the armed forces will have to in-process and train them. The Army (and the other services) don’t have the facilities to in-process that many men and women right now. Can you imagine the cost of bringing online multiple basic training posts throughout the county? Currently we induct approximately 200K a year across all four branches of service, enlisted and officers. A draft could increase this by more than a factor of 15!
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Kaslin,
As a member in the military and working within it for over 32 years, I can tell you that the draft is a real need. Our draft numbers are based upon slots. If we are in a real or perceived strong economy the enlistment numbers drop. This creates a problem filling “slots” in our military workings. I don’t know how many people that came in and were deployed to the middle east weren’t looking for ways to get out of it. They were looking for a job, and not a military one. the main injury in the middle east that brought women home during Desert Storm was pregnancy. And from what I saw personally, it was intentional. So, you can’t expect the people to be consistent with enlisting if the economy is good, and the need to fill slots is there. I remember when the3y had an overage of personnel after Vietnam. So they started “palace balance” to fill slots and people walked away. Then the destruction of the military numbers and equipment of the 90’s by Clinton finished the job. we4 need numbers. We are not capable of working two or more theaters at the same time competently at this point. Women, even if they are not physically able to accomplish combat slots due to their body breakdowns, can handle very many other type of slots. Many better than men. So yes draft them if they are needed. And they are needed.
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This author has no idea of the principle at issue. We have retained the draft apparatus because this is what the government does, control the population in as many ways as possible. In the unlikely event that a draft were required, it could be reinstated in days. But, requiring women to register would mean the end of the draft and every politician knows it.
On the other hand, if we had a true universal draft, including women, the political nonsense of allowing a handful of women realizing their fantasies at the expense of the nation’s defense capability would disappear over night. This issue is purely political, nothing at all about defense policy. By defeating this provision, the gutless Republicans have surrendered to the Democrats and the social engineers.
Other than the training draft the military would be wholly voluntary. In time of war there would be quite enough volunteers, the reason being that everyone has experience with the military and has the basic training. There would not be the widespread fear of the draft or the military because it does not disrupt lives if everyone has to do it before he can do anything else. Draft dodgers don't get to get an educational jump on draftees. Much of the opposition to the draft, other than the purely political, is fear of the unknown. Building a fighting force if serious war does come would be much quicker if everyone already had that basic and infantry training.
How stupid does this writer have to be to base his argument on the assumption that to have a draft, every single 18 year old who is physically able must be inducted?
During FY41, with a population less than 45% of today’s, total strength of the U.S. military was increased by 1.3 million.
My generation (post WWII) survived the draft. The resistance to a draft started with the worship of bad citizenship in the 1960’s. All great peoples require their citizens to serve such desire to serve dies with the love of country.
I say bring back the draft
It forced young men to grow up
If it's done during peace time, they don't need to feel like they're being made into hamburger
The emasculation of males and de-feminization of women is to destroy all natural instincts in little boys and girls-—to normalize the irrational and destroy the male/female paradigm of Christianity—the most rational, just, brilliant “faith”. The most perfect (Natural), system ON EARTH in ALL OF HISTORY is literally being destroyed (ERASED BY INDOCTRINATION) because parents give up their children to the indoctrination systems (schools/TV). (No embedded Natural (Real Life) interactions—all screen programming and controlling of emotions/desires so outer control ONLY exists and maturity (Virtue—inner control of base emotions)) is impossible (no practice/habituation/embedding of agency—every system is to destroy Agency INTENTIONALLY and create dependent “group (non) thinkers”).
The very philosophy of our Constitution is based on Free Will and Individuality (Natural Laws where males/females are DIFFERENT—NEVER THE SAME (roles are crucial to NORMAL NATURAL RELATIONSHIPS AND FLOURISHING FUTURES). Reason and Logic and Virtue (Excellence) is being destroyed in our children by the skools of indoctrination/programming unnatural evil desires and lies). (Repeat the Big Lies (like boys are girls) and it becomes the Truth).
These evil sodomites have been teaching pride in sodomy for over a generation to little 5 year olds (making Vice into Virtue—Flipping 2000 years of philosophy, back to paganism/Satanism/tribalism (inability of the masses to think “critically”—to have a coherent abstract “thought” in their empty, irrational “minds”.
The “draft” is in direct conflict with the very philosophy of our Constitution (as was slavery of Blacks as Jefferson and Adams noted at the Founding).
Epigenics/Social Manipulation of the desires of little boys and girls is being SO WARPED and DESTROYED——so that the NWO of total slavery (goose steppers who kill for corporations/few elite sodomites continues.
I think that the “draft”—even of males—is unconstitutional and should be ended completely. The State is evil/Governmnet is EVIL (force), as the Founders ALL stated. They should NEVER be able to FORCE any man into being the slave of the State elite sodomites or irrational corporations who fund all the psychopaths. (Of course, with drones they are eliminating the “need” for humans to kill-—they now can just kill masses and not deal with the “moral” few in our military now, since it has been purged and the homosexual jackboots are being put in place-—exactly as the homosexual Brownshirts-—so they are capable of killing and brutalizing even little children and women.
Sorry for my awful editing again—but always in a hurry and have a MILLION things to do.
Rather than drafting conscripts THEN giving them military training, make military training a widely used school option like ROTC and Junior ROTC. Along with the military training, an intensive course in the REAL history and culture of the United States, as it played out in the years prior to 1960, intended to correct the miseducation that has been applied to public schools the past fifty years.
America is and always was a good country, albeit with poorly inspired leaders at times, that has demonstrated the best form of self-correcting experience in governance the world has ever known. Yes, there have been excesses, but that is the purpose of experience, to learn and apply that learning.
Young men who truly love their land of nativity should not have to be drafted, and they should be signing up in such numbers that no draft should ever be necessary. The Swiss have it right - every able-bodied Swiss male citizen is a member of the Swiss Army, as a reserve, and learns this self-reliance from a very early age.
Neither Hitler nor Mussolini dared any attempt to send troops into Switzerland in the Second World War, because the Swiss would have scorched earth, dynamiting every mountain pass and tunnel through the mountains and taken up defensive positions behind every tree and mountain ridge in all of Switzerland.
Despite my poor attempt at humor, I agree with you.
We need the draft but not for woman. We need to draft these silly millennials and then make men’s men of them.
I remember the peacetime draft. I enlisted just prior to being drafted. Guys lived through it OK. It’s not such a bad thing & with the downsizing in the military we’ve,it might be necessary again.
There’s not much left of my libertarian philosophy as I’ve aged. I’m a lot less ideological, but in a free nation, that is not at war, I feel the draft is an imposition on the individual that goes a step too far. I understand young people are adrift, and need direction, but in any time & age that’s always the case.
As far as I can tell, the military is doing just fine, with people who have joined because they wanted to be involved with the defense of our nation. Forcing people to serve for 2 years or more in peacetime is allowing government too much power....too much involvement in our private lives.
If there’s a war, an attack, an emergency....a draft is rational & proper, but otherwise; the less ties people have to this, or any government the better IMHO.
We do not belong to the State.
I would rather have a well trained force with the manpower and resources to do the job over a conscript army full of kids who don’t really want to be there, even in peacetime. Bring the armed forces up to strength and restore readiness without the draft first.
You are missing the point. This has nothing to do with raising and training a military. This is all about social engineering and placing defense of the nation secondary to the political agenda of the Democrat Party. Women, homosexuals, transgenders, criminals, pacifists, and terrorists should be accommodated within the military in whatever position that fits their desires. Phyisical limitations don’t count, mental limitations don’t count, anti social behavior doesn’t count.
As it currently stands, I, a 50-something male, have to prove that I registered for the draft every 5 years, when my Security Clearance re-up occurs. . . despite being an Honorably Discharged vet.
When I went back to school, a decade ago, to get my Master’s: I had to provide my Selective Service number to apply for Student Loans (which are currently almost completely paid off).
No woman has to jump through EITHER of those hoops.
Either drop the requirement to register, and the penalties. . .or require women to register. . .
“We need to draft these silly millennials and then make men’s men of them.”
This bullshit wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t given women the vote. Women destroy civilizations given too much power. This is just my opinion.
Not only will dumping the social engineering make the armed forces more capable of doing their real job, more people would be willing to enlist.
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