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'Outlaw bikers' open up about clubs, culture and deadly Waco shootout
CNN ^ | May 15, 2016 | Ann O'Neill, Ed Lavandera

Posted on 05/16/2016 7:27:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

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How this story was reported

Bikers who might never have considered talking to outsiders before Waco recently spoke with CNN. Some were in the thick of the violence, others were hundreds of miles away. Most face serious prison time.

CNN also obtained voluminous documentation, including witness statements, and hours of video evidence from Waco police dash cams, as well as a cameras police set up in the restaurant parking lot. CNN also obtained and reviewed videos from the Twin Peaks surveillance cameras.

That evidence, along with interviews with experts and bikers from both clubs, form the basis of the documentary, "Biker Brawl: Inside the Texas Shootout," which airs for the first time on Monday at 9 p.m. on CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bikers; dea; shootout; waco
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To: Travis McGee

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21 posted on 05/16/2016 8:14:56 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (It's now or never vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party 2016)
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To: bgill

I’ve seen the bikers in action; back in the day, the 1st turn infield at the Indy 500 was called “the Snake Pit,” and for a reason. It was basically the Wild West, run by the Outlaws. But there were rules. Obviously, you didn’t mess with the bikers. But, you were expected to not mess with others, either.

Once we saw a muscle head bullying a smaller guy. Why, I don’t know. But the Outlaws saw it, went over to the bully’s van and slashed his tires, then beat the crap out of him. It was very rough justice, but it I can’t say it wasn’t deserved.

My anecdotal experience has been that so long as you behave respectfully and don’t give offense, and understand that you are not one of them, you will be OK.


22 posted on 05/16/2016 8:16:07 AM PDT by henkster (DonÂ’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: PAR35

Well, yes but my point still stands. At least the story got that right.


23 posted on 05/16/2016 8:17:00 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: henkster

My brother owned a biker apparel store and I helped him out for parties, bike shows, etc. The Hell’s Angels always had a booth near ours and they were always so nice and polite to me. It was always yes ma’am and no ma’am. Same way when they came into the store.


24 posted on 05/16/2016 8:24:00 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Texas Fossil
The Cossacks aren't confederation members, and as far as the Bandidos from Dallas were concerned, they hadn't been invited.

Well, duh, no one was invited. Those meetings are open to the public. But that's the meme the msm continues to tout.

Police suspected something was up; they'd installed cameras and stationed about 20 cops around the parking lot. But they stood back, keeping a low profile... The feds had been building a case against the Bandidos unrelated to the Waco shootout

Ding, ding, ding. Total set up with undercover LEO making sure the feds and WPD, etc. had something to start shooting at.

25 posted on 05/16/2016 8:24:35 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Boogieman

Can you say undercover?


26 posted on 05/16/2016 8:25:30 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Boogieman

It was set up by the government and agents provocateurs planted in the biker gangs.


27 posted on 05/16/2016 8:27:53 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Texas Fossil

bump


28 posted on 05/16/2016 8:32:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Texas Fossil

“This is a pilot program by the Fed Gov in mass group arrests under very vague charges. “

Uh, this was a gang war and charges are from the state of Texas.


29 posted on 05/16/2016 8:42:08 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for the post. Am out of the country, but thx to the magic of modern technology, just set that to record.


30 posted on 05/16/2016 8:42:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PAR35

You’re nuts.


31 posted on 05/16/2016 8:43:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bgill

Right, undercover agents always start shootouts that they will be right in the middle of taking fire from their own backup... that’s just genius level strategy right there!


32 posted on 05/16/2016 8:45:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bgill
"The bikers did not initiate the attack, the LEO initiated the attack on the bikers."

Really!

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In a blink, it started, he said: “Two punches: One from them, one from us.”

A Bandido with a patch identifying him as sergeant-at-arms of the same chapter threw a punch at Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, known as “Richie,” who was from Pasadena, Tex. Jordan punched the guy back.

“At that point in time, the sergeant in arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said.

Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head.

“Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said. “There were maybe 60 or 70 of us in the parking lot. . . . We took off running. We scattered. Three of our guys went down instantly. They caught a couple more that tripped and fell, and Bandidos were shooting at them.”

He said that the second man to die was Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, known as Diesel, a “road captain” in the Cossacks from Waco. Police said that Boyett died from gunshot wounds to the head.

The third man down was “Dog,” whose real name is Charles Wayne Russell, 46, of Winona. Russell’s cause of death was listed as a gunshot wound to the chest.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html

33 posted on 05/16/2016 8:46:08 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Texas Fossil

“I’ve read that there was at least 3 who were informants or undercover agents within the biker groups at Twin Peaks that day.”

Here is some more info for you:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/636738/Aliens-are-best-sex-ever-says-US-group-claiming-to-have-created-ET-human-hybrids


34 posted on 05/16/2016 8:47:36 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: henkster

“My anecdotal experience has been that so long as you behave respectfully and don’t give offense, and understand that you are not one of them, you will be OK.”

hmmm.

As long as you respect gangsters, they will let you be.

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 05/16/2016 8:51:57 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Boogieman

“witnesses have said that a Waco cop wearing a Cossacks cut was firing shots, then helped make arrests afterward.”
http://www.gq.com/story/untold-story-texas-biker-gang-shoot-out


36 posted on 05/16/2016 8:52:11 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: TexasGator

I see the PR team for the Waco PD has shown up.


37 posted on 05/16/2016 8:54:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: TexasGator

Oh, I didn’t say they weren’t criminals or gangsters, or that they should not be prosecuted for their crimes. But there will be situations where you might have to deal with them. In those situations, it’s best to know the rules. If you want to disregard the rules and take them on, be my guest.


38 posted on 05/16/2016 9:06:22 AM PDT by henkster (DonÂ’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: Texas Fossil

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39 posted on 05/16/2016 9:29:21 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: TexasGator

Lol...that was good!


40 posted on 05/16/2016 9:34:22 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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