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L.A.'s middle class is gone. How do we rebuild it?
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 10, 2016 | Harold Meyerson

Posted on 05/10/2016 7:44:25 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

Let it sink!

The more you feed the beast, the more it demands. I’m speaking of the liberal government beast.

Remove the possibility of a fed bailout, so when California becomes venesulea, maybe the people will start electing some adults and return to reality.

Either that, or California cecedes and gives it over to Mexico.


21 posted on 05/10/2016 8:05:31 AM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: mainestategop

Controlling the border is essential but taking back the minds of our children is essential. We need to raise moral, responsible, virtuous children-—and not allow the “public” schools and media (MSM) to indoctrinate and hyper-sexualize them to destroy moral formation and erase the Wisdom of the Ages (which created the US Constitution).

It is impossible to have dumb/tribal people who can’t understand simple Truths like men are not women-—to understand Lockean/Adam Smith philosophy. It isn’t POSSIBLE when people have NO COMMON SENSE and can’t even understand simple biological truths.

Without Virtue (Wisdom)—there is no Freedom—no civil society. Western Civ knew that over 2500 years ago.

The Cultural Marxists who took over our universities in the 30s knew to get control over programming our children-—get them for 4 years and they OWN their worldview-—and it doesn’t matter WHAT the parents believe.

Destroying Christian Worldview for tribal, satanic, pederastic ideologies-—baby-killing ones has been going on for 70 years to collapse the West. (They have done it in Europe for the most part.) We are not far behind when we allow our “Just” Laws to promote insanity and vice-—and we “celebrate the muslim ethics of sodomy/slavery/killing “unbelievers”.


22 posted on 05/10/2016 8:06:11 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: artichokegrower

By moving to Texas?


23 posted on 05/10/2016 8:06:31 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: Kudsman

I didn’t read the article. I’m sure LA has some unique issues. But the overall issue is found in cities across the country. Cities across the country have evolved into places with enclaves for the wealthy, with vast areas of the cities becoming slums.

The middle class moved out in recent decades, to suburbs and exurbs. Now some inner suburbs of major cities are becoming slums, and middle class people are fleeing those areas and going to exurbs, or even changing their lives and moving to small town America.

Bottom line is that the middle class is moving away from undesirable/unaffordable living situations.


24 posted on 05/10/2016 8:08:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: artichokegrower

Answer: hang, shoot or deport every last communist, liberal, socialist and muslim. We’re done with debate. As Michael Collins put it, “Let us drop talking and get on with our work.”


25 posted on 05/10/2016 8:09:22 AM PDT by Noumenon (Destroy Islam and its followers. The civilization you save may be your own.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What is up with California liberals and their love of trains? It’s one of their weirder hobby horses, and I don’t think that their idols Marx or Keynes ever talked about trains at all.


26 posted on 05/10/2016 8:12:01 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Noumenon

This is the necessary solution, but unfortunately too many people are deluded enough to believe that liberals and their ilk aren’t pure evil.


27 posted on 05/10/2016 8:13:30 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: artichokegrower

Deport all illegals and gang-bangers and normal people will return.


28 posted on 05/10/2016 8:14:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (“What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Eventually with any liberal-run city, the only people who can afford to live there are the very rich or the very poor, who subsist on government subsidies and handouts.


29 posted on 05/10/2016 8:14:53 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: artichokegrower
L.A.'s middle class is gone. How do we rebuild it?

Liberal reply: "Let's raise taxes!"

Never mind that this is what drove out the middle-class in the first place. Coastal California has turned into a zone in which only the wealthy and the poor can survive - the poor subsisting on the social welfare programs provided by the rich. The middle class, which gets taxed and gets no social welfare, is leaving in droves.
30 posted on 05/10/2016 8:15:32 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

On the bright side most of the upper percent of L.A. is in the entertainment industry and are thus liberals. So I say YES. Tax them to death.


31 posted on 05/10/2016 8:16:08 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: artichokegrower

Only Progressives and GOPe types think “we” can rebuilt an economy. What they miss is that the economy will rebuild itself if “they” just get the hell out of the way.

Thought experiment: revoke all regulatory laws short of those banning child labor and basic protection of workers and the environment. No minimum wage, no corporate tax, no business licenses or fees, etc. in a defined area. Call it a “Government Free Zone”. Stand back and watch for 10 years and see what happens.


32 posted on 05/10/2016 8:16:43 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: savagesusie
You're right. I read that even 100 years ago Los Angeles California had this problem. Two of their major streets were Christian names but the elitists there changed them.

Charity street became Grand, Faith became Flower and Grasshopper became Figueroa.

And I remember during the great depression the Okies and the people from the Midwest fleeing the dust bowl were treated worse than anything. This while many of these elitists hired illegal aliens! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!? They'd rather hire a Mexican instead of an Okie!! WTF?!

I think its no wonder California went from being the most conservative state in the country to being the most liberal. 100 years of encroaching godlessness and faithlessness made the state prey to socialism, despite the state being amongst the most conservative. Now Only Orange County and Kern county bear any semblance to conservatism.

33 posted on 05/10/2016 8:17:32 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: artichokegrower

Start with immigration moratorium of 10 years; especially H1b visas. Todays news is that Intel is firing 12,000 American (middle class) for 14,000 H1b visa holders.


34 posted on 05/10/2016 8:17:35 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: artichokegrower

State public workers can bargain for wages and benefits, but not Federal workers.


35 posted on 05/10/2016 8:18:20 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: artichokegrower

L.A. is Mexico now. Mexico is a sewer, so what else did they expect the people that made Mexico a sewer to do but make L.A. a sewer too??


36 posted on 05/10/2016 8:22:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: artichokegrower

The brainiacs on the left are going to legislate a solution (I can’t even type this with a straight face).


37 posted on 05/10/2016 8:23:52 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: PGR88

It’s simple, really. Power equals money, and when you have power, mainly of choice in the marketplace, comcentrated in the hands of the few, you will have concentrations of wealth. It never fails to amaze me how the left is able to make the fact that the majority of the extremely wealthy support Democrats disappear. Not only that, but when that fact is acknowledged, it’s framed as some kind of altruistic “giving back.”


38 posted on 05/10/2016 8:25:39 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: artichokegrower

You can’t rebuild the middle class when you have 90 percent of the wealth held by one or two percent of the people.

It takes money in circulation to building a middle class, money that is worth something, not just printed money.


39 posted on 05/10/2016 8:28:37 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: artichokegrower
A lot of people on thread got it:

The most plausible immediate hope for creating [local middle-class] jobs is a ballot measure being put together ... that would raise the county sales tax by a half-cent.

Yeppers, if your social programs have run your taxpayers out of town, the best thing to do is raise taxes! You can't fix stupid.

40 posted on 05/10/2016 8:28:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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