Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

[LucyT]

Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane she was traveling in crashed into the ocean was wearing an infant life vest and the pilot didn't give a safety briefing before takeoff, according to details in a National Transportation Safety Board report.

An autopsy determined Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat from hyperventilating after she exited the plane, which landed in choppy water off the island of Molokai. The pilot and seven other passengers on the 2013 Makani Kai Air flight survived.

Pilot Clyde Kawasaki reported to the NTSB that he heard a loud bang, followed by an immediate loss of engine power soon after the single-engine Cessna took off from Molokai, headed for Honolulu.

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[butterdezillion]

She didn’t, according to MCPD UIPA responses. And looking at the medical history is standard practice for coroners, especially if the COD isn’t immediately clear. She also was supposed to record the autopsy and didn’t. Her work on this “autopsy” was sub-standard at best.

Unless she was analyzing a mannequin from an emergency drill.

Could explain why there were no communications requesting an autopsy in this “autopsy” performed as “outside assistance” for an investigation that nobody claims to have made...

[butterdezillion]

If Fuddy’s lifejacket had both chambers inflated (both cartridges punctured to inflate the jacket) there was no way to get the cartridge unpunctured when the USCG retrieved her. What the USCG retrieved CANNOT be the same lifejacket as Fuddy was wearing if the cartridges were both punctured when Fuddy wore the lifejacket.

At http://www.safeboatingcampaign.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2016-Inflatables.pdf it explains, “Inflatable life jackets are reusable, but, after each use, the CO2 cylinder needs to be replaced.” That’s because to get the jacket inflated, the CO2 cylinder has to be punctured, letting out the CO2 into the jacket chamber. Once the CO2 is punctured there’s no more air to inflate the chamber with again.

What the NTSB, in effect, is saying is that Fuddy was videoed in the water wearing two popped balloons (CO2 cartridges) but when she was retrieved from the water only one of the balloons was popped. Can’t be. You can’t un-pop a balloon.

And in the images of Fuddy next to the plane AND the images of her next to Yamamoto, both chambers are clearly seen as inflated. So at the point that she supposedly let go of Yamamoto’s hand to drift off by herself, both her balloons/cartridges were popped. There was no way for anybody to unpop one of the balloons so that one was still intact when the USCG lifted her from the water.

There is NO WAY that what the USCG retrieved from the water was the same Fuddy as is seen in the video, if the witnesses’ stories are accurate.

[4Zoltan]

Why? Why switch life vests? How does it move the conspiracy forward?

[butterdezillion]

They didn’t switch any life vests. According to the stories there wouldn’t even have been a chance for anybody to switch life vests. They had a mannequin in a partially-inflated infant life jacket that was retrieved by the USCG as if it was Fuddy.

That mannequin is filmed in the cabin in the same seat with Jake and had a blue cap like his, except that it was the wrong shape and there wasn’t Jake’s hair (including ponytail) sticking out of the bottom of the mannequin’s hat - but was reddish hair held inside the hat (red hair that later shows up right next to Jake as he first got into the water). That mannequin was sitting straight-up on the outside-most side of the seat while Jake sat straight up on the interior-most side of the seat. That mannequin’s lifelike pudgy hand is seen in the cabin footage dangling down from a high position at an angle where it could not have belonged to any of the 3 people within that tiny space (Jake, Rosa, and Puentes). At that point Jake is making a beeline for the exit, apparently carrying the mannequin (with dangling hand) over the top of Puentes’ camera which at that point was studiously recording everybody’s feet.

What happened to the real Fuddy, in the fully-inflated adult life jacket she was recorded wearing next to Yamamoto? She obviously wasn’t retrieved by the USCG and thus examined by coroner Lindsey Harle. Where did she go? I have some suspicions, but it seems like the NTSB or FBI should be answering that question, no? The NTSB had the video; they saw that Fuddy’s jacket was fully inflated so had to have 2 punctured CO2 cartridges. They saw that what was retrieved from the ocean (claimed as being Fuddy) still had a CO2 cartridge intact. They therefore knew that what was retrieved was not Fuddy. Why did they fail to find out what really happened? Why did they go along with the big lie?

[WildHighlander57]

The “fiveofsix” file is linked to here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=101#101

link in #101 goes here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrl8b9uc74vz3lr/fiveofsix.jpg?dl=0

and it is HDOH Deputy Director helping Mrs B; he’s wearing a dark shirt.

so the questionmark on Yamamoto’s shirt color isn’t a question any more in this passenger collage and clothes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=195#195

What’s left for that collage is to figure pants and shoe color of the pilot and pants and shoe color of Holstein.

[Fred Nerks]

you'll find the pilot underwater wearing his white shirt and dark trousers on this page...scroll down. LINK

[rx]

Whose responsibility would it rightly be to answer your question of, "Why (switch life vests)?" It certainly wouldn't be butterdezillion's responsibility to answer, and who knows to properly speak for the darker intentions of others' hearts? You're simply looking for something to attack because you've run out of targets!

And what's with your further insult of, "How does it move the conspiracy forward?" The conspiracy existed well before that day. Once there is a conspiracy, details of how a conspiracy's plans might be played out have no bearing on anything like "mov[ing a] conspiracy forward!" Whether a conspirators' plan was effective or ineffective, it would have still been the product of that conspiracy.

Your question means nothing outside of your demeaning insinuation that a detective's work would somehow advance support for a conspiracy when there was none. Nonsense! A conspiracy exists in this case, and all the plane's occupants were apprised thereof beforehand. The frequency and uniformity of their highly improbable lies belie the conspiracy.

I know of no conservative that would formulate such a question. When a conspiracy has been shown, a conservative would always work against the conspiracy, unless the conservative were successfully bribed.

It's probably not the case that anyone switched life vests on Fuddy. If Fuddy was not the decedent hoisted into helicopter, which I confidently maintain, there would have been no need to do any switching to get the real Ms Fuddy into an infant life-jacket.

Because Fuddy started out with a fully inflated (double-punctured-cartridge) adult life vest, no matter what happened thereafter, for there to be an infant life-jacketed, dead body hoisted toward the end of the scenario should tell everyone watching and thinking that either 1) something or somebody at the scene killed Fuddy related to the swap of life-jackets, or 2) something or somebody took her place as she exited the scenario alive.

In other words, if she died, any thorough investigation should have started with investigating how her life jacket was swapped at sometime during the scenario. But there was no investigation regarding her death whatsoever.

Since the ME said Ms Fuddy's fear and stress gave rise to hyperventilation and an arrhythmia, any responsible investigator should have tracked that down, but by the records, no one did. The NTSB is not responsible for determining a cause of death. That would be a county, state or FBI responsibility.

There was zero reason Fuddy would have had to be fearful and stressed when she was able to stand at many times and places to rest and relax. The HDOH Deputy Director that stood next to her for extended lengths of time belied how easy it was to stand. For example:

Would she have given up her life jacket willingly? If she did and her lifeless body was hoisted into a helicopter an hour later, it obviously would have been a bad choice.

But her body mass in this salt water was of a type that frankly needed no life jacket. The life jacket in the following picture is doing little more than supporting her neck:

But Fuddy there in the middle is able to kick up even her knees and feet well out of the water despite their being over four foot away from her life vest.

Wait, now what's that peeking up between Fuddy and her hand-holder? No matter, it's gone again in mere seconds, with the DD bending his knees again:

On the other hand, we (my lawyers, a retired NTSB IIC, current, very experienced FAA Inspector buddies, former military officers, a large FBO owner and other jet jocks and I, who all the info I've collected) know this event to have been a planned hoax. There would have to be a reason some group would want to pull it off. The obvious reason--beyond "Who wouldn't want yourself and and your extended family to be able to live in the lap of luxury for the rest of your days without having to do a stitch of work!"--is that Fuddy was a potential witness to a trial during which she might have given up very damning information that would work against the interests of "other people."


Inasmuch as Fuddy has here been conclusively shown to have been replaced in the middle of the aftermath scenario, we may rest assured she didn't crawl back into the scenario to die, be hoisted into a helicopter and be misidentified by her sister. Once Ms Fuddy was extracted from the scenario, somebody or something would have had to take her place. We may also rest assured Ms Fuddy's sister did not identify a skinny, 6'+ diver as her sister. You're a thinking human being (right?). You can figure this out!

Hawaii Revised Statute 28-101 lawfully empowers the HI Attorney General to determine to engage such a hoax and to pay for it out of Hawaii funds. However, it seems doubtful it was ever the intention of the citizens of Hawaii to have the AG keep a potential witness from testifying, as it would have been the case here.

[WildHighlander57]

OK many thanks; pilot’s clothing and Yamamoto’s clothing colors are complete.

What’s left are Holstein’s pants and shoes.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Loretta Fuddy died from acute birth certificate syndrome. :-)

[rx]

Flip wore brown leather shoes, blue jeans and a green polo shirt with his company logo on it...and an infant life jacket.

[Fred Nerks]

http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/state-wire/hawaii-official-who-died-after-crash-wore-infant-life-vest

article link for the record

[butterdezillion]

On that second image down, Yamamoto is clearly standing with his lifejacket far above water level, even as his body is close enough to touch hers. We’re supposed to believe he allowed her to die from fright floating on her back in her fully-inflated lifejacket when at any time he could have simply said, “Loretta, stand up like I am!”

[butterdezillion]

On the image at https://s6.postimg.org/4q2fvqr81/Pv0743ochestthings.jpg it looks like she's sitting on something. To lie back on her lifejacket she'd have to be floating but to float you need your legs down and back arched. She's closer to being in fetal position, with her legs bent above the water. In that image her lifejacket may not even be touching the water; hard to tell. I'm not an expert but I'm imagining myself trying to do this in a lifejacket and I just can't see it. It almost looks like Yamamoto (or somebody else) is lifting her out of the water. How soon does it switch to a different camera and show the tall guy there instead of her?

[bgill]

What the heck is that slip ‘n slide thing?

Again, we see a perfectly intact plane compared to the total mess they later pulled out of the ocean.

[4Zoltan]

Here is an account of the recovery of the plane.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24265511/ntsb-gets-first-look-at-salvaged-airplane

“The plane was intact when it hit the ocean and sank. But it was under water for nearly a week. Ross said Saturday’s large northwest ocean swell took it apart.”

[4Zoltan]

That’s the back of Jake Key’s head. The bright sunlight changes the color to look reddish to the camera. Watch the video just before the left to right shift by Puente. You can see the sunlight move up the cabin washing out the colors.

Not a mannequin.

[rx]

If we had found the "slip-n-slide" on Mars, the whole scientific world would be up in arms, screaming to the heavens, hollering that they'd found clear evidence of intelligent life having been there.

Though I'm no expert familiar with what military types use for their work or transportation, proof of the presence of intelligent life has clearly been proven here as well. Along with the red-and-black arrowed, side-by-side plane shots from the plane's starboard-rear in post #240 that rise ever increasingly out of the water, we have clear evidence of other, unannounced and later unreported people, other than plane occupants, at the scene--doing something that was pre-planned and prepared for (in that they've "set up shop" with their equipment).

1. That these people/divers show no regard for the seriously injured among the passengers in any effort to get them ashore before is hideous, showing ill preparation on the part of conspiracy the planned this hoax.

2. Given the other equipment we see at the engine and all the bubbling, we can only surmise they're creating human damage that would later be covered up under the guise of a winter storm.

3. Nobody appears "officially" on scene for another fifteen minutes and the helicopters that would lift them out of the water don't show up for another half hour. The pilot later said he knew rescuers would arrive a half hour after being notified. Could the fact that it took those rescuers over over an hour be due to the fact that they had to wait for the guys at the plane to finish up with their work?

4. With a team of divers lying in wait to swoop down onto the scene with the obvious plan to create damage at the plane means the plane was brought down at a known, pre-planned location.   Would the plane's claimed engine failure therefore then have been mid-air sabotage or a hoax... that never really happened?

5. At 4:20pm (about fifteen minutes after the slip-n-slide picture was taken, the USCG command C-130 arrived on scene and radioed to controllers it “had both the aircraft and a rescue boat in sight.” No news report contains anything about a boat. Was that boat how these divers made their way to the scene?

SDV's dont' "just happen" to be in a particular area. They travel around the globe, mostly underwater, attached to submarines. Such submarines have to be purposed and scheduled days if not weeks in advance. The Caravan going down in this area must also have been known days if not weeks in advance.

This entire event is hereby shown to have been an intricately-planned hoax!!!!!

[rx]

Over Jake's right shoulder is not the back of Jake's head, but the red hair, forehead and eyebrow of a mannequin made to look like Fuddy.   There literally is nothing else it could be.

And here's that mannequin's hand as Jake hoisted Dolly the Deliana doll above the scene in the plane's cabin. That hand could not physically have belonged to anyone else at the scene.

A mannequin in the midst of a proven fraud, from which Fuddy was extracted, being replaced by a tall, skinny diver.   You're on the wrong team, 4Zoltan!

[rx]

Aren’t the two-and-a-half-year-old talking points just a bit dated, 4Zoltan?

[stephenjohnbanker]

LOL!

Thanks for the ping.