Posted on 05/04/2016 9:41:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Republican presidential aspirant John Kasich stirred up angry words from women's organizations and the Democratic Party by his response to a question from a female college student at a town hall meeting in Watertown, New York, regarding sexual assault. Kasich said all the right things about prosecuting offenders, but what got the Ohio governor in trouble with leftists was the end of his response: "I'd also give you one bit of advice: Don't go to parties where there's a lot of alcohol, OK? Don't do that." Let's examine that advice. To do so, let's ask some general questions about common sense.
Does one have a right to put his wallet on the hood of his car, attend a movie show, return and find his wallet and its contents undisturbed? You say, "Williams, you've lost it! Why would one do such a crazy thing?" If that's your response, you miss the point made by Kasich's critics. People are duty-bound to respect private property rights. So why shouldn't one feel at ease leaving his wallet on the hood of his car and expect it to be there when he returns?
If the person's wallet were stolen, what would you advise? Would it be to counsel people to respect private property rights? Put into the context of feminists' responses to Kasich's suggestion, you might argue that it's outrageous to suggest that people "restrict their behavior." Plain, ordinary common sense would say yes, a person has the right to lay his wallet on the hood of his car and expect it to be there when he returns. But we don't live in a world full of angels; therefore, the best bet is for one to keep his wallet in his pocket.
Here's a does-the-same-principle-apply question. Does a voluptuous, scantily clad young woman have a right to attend a rowdy fraternity party, dance suggestively, get drunk and face no unwelcome sexual advances? My answer is yes. Her body is her private property, and she has every right to expect that her inebriated state not be exploited. Suppose you were the young woman's father. Would you advise the following? "Go ahead and wear scanty attire, dance suggestively and get drunk. If a guy makes unwelcome advances, we'll catch him and bring rape charges." I'm betting that most fathers' advice would be the opposite, namely: "Dress and behave like a respectable lady, and don't attend drunken parties and get drunk." It's similar to the advice about leaving a wallet on the hood of a car. People are not angels, and one's conduct ought to take that into consideration.
Suppose you have a well-behaved, law-abiding son whose friends are not so well-behaved and law-abiding. They do drugs, shoplift and play hooky. Your son does none of those things. As a responsible parent, your advice to your son would be that it is better to be alone than in the wrong company and that people judge you based upon the people with whom you associate. Your son might respond by saying, "I have rights. If I'm not doing something wrong, I shouldn't be judged based on what my friends do!" Your response should be, "You're right, but unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way."
Here's another common-sense issue particularly relevant to today's police/citizen relations. Suppose it's the middle of the night and a police officer is suspicious of a young male driver. The officer uses the excuse that the young man made an illegal lane change to pull him over. If the driver were your son, what would you advise him to do, exercise his free speech rights to berate the officer for making a stop on such a flimsy basis? Or would you advise him to quietly give the officer his license and registration and answer the officer's questions, which probably would allow him to drive away without a citation at all?
To teach young people, particularly young men, Benjamin Franklin's admonition that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is a challenging task. But it is the job of adults to get such common-sense messages across, even at the cost of leftist condemnation.
I don’t. I attack him for being a stone globalist/socialist Republican.
Left believes we’re all victims and none of us are responsible for our own actions.
We couldn’t help ourselves if we screw up.
Only TRUMP could get away with saying COMMON SENSE like this
This is why I am glad he is running
Every other GOP RINO would be apologizing this morning for saying that...
RE: I attack him for being a stone globalist/socialist Republican.
Can we stick to the topic please?
RE: Every other GOP RINO would be apologizing this morning for saying that...
Did Kasich apologize for saying that?
What any good father would tell his young daughter.
+1
Because the liberals view girls as a victim class, as a grievance group? And it ties in with the idea that she should be able to get drunk and not have guys take advantage of her.
Interesting concept to a point. But does it apply to other situations? Suppose I as a white person go down to the ghetto and take a stroll on Martin Luther King Blvd. At midnight. Theoretically I should be abke to walk down that public street and not be in any danger. But odds are in that situation I will be the victim of violence.
Cant we use common sense situational awareness? Isn’t it common sense to say girls, don’t get drunk???
Actually, I don’t believe John Kasich apologized for what he said here and he deserves to be commended for saying what needed to be said..
In the mind of the loony left, the only thing anyone can suggest women avoid for their own good is attending Church regularly, prayer, to worshiping the one true God.
Oh, and to take an active part in raising their children - blasphemy!
He doesn’t go to the CORE destruction of Common Sense in children. Removing God and banning Jesus Christ (Western Civ) in the 1960s makes it impossible to instill Virtue (Excellence/Common Sense/Morality) in little children so they grow up like little irrational muslims raised in boy harems, esp. if they have no loving biological father in their home.
Wisdom is discerning Good and Evil (Cicero) and that is being not only BLURRED on purpose to young children in movies/TV—they TEACH (program) them to “think” Evil is Good (sodomy/killing babies, etc)
Children embed irrational concepts and WILL be made into ideologues (NO Common Sense) and remain ignorant and DUMB because schools lie to little children and tell them evil, vile behaviors are “good” and to tolerate really dysfunctional, vile use of the human body.
The sodomite elites in 1800s knew to destroy Western Civ. they have to get the minds of the little children aways from loving parents and into artificial “skools” or in front of screens so they could embed their ideology and “desires” and their ‘worldview” (how to “see” others). They KNEW they could literally FLIP Good and Evil (and destroy Common Sense) with the control of children (Prussian system of mass indoctrination (group think).
People who use others in meaningless, irrational, arbitrary ways are evil—and Truth NEEDS to be promoted to little children, but with the Lies/Stanism/Atheism/Earth Worship being the indoctrination tools of the Left with 4 and 5 year olds——you eliminate Commn Sense-—the ability to be a critical thinker in ALL of LIFE-——no ability to be Self-Reliant for the TOOLS “to think” with are ONLY Classical Christian Curricula which was thrown out by the sodomites and humanists like Keynes and Dewey by 1930s.
Without Virtue formation in young childhood (only done inside the Natural Family in first 8 years so they can’t be warped by perverts) and then “tutored” by people who are MORAL (Christian is the most perfect/Just/Inclusive).
When it gets to role models, and yes, Trump is a great one, he will be fine--look at his family--no drugs, no alcohol, well-educated, respectful, and productive kids. Plus, Trump is an incredibly successful entrepreneur.
Kasich should go back to Ohio, spend time with his family, and get back to being governor.
One of the few things I agree with him on.
I had this debate with a female high school student I had in class....it was her RIGHT to dress they way she like and get drunk.
“if I’m driving down the highway and an on coming semi pulls into my lane to pass I can insist that I have the right away. As they pull my remains out of the grill the police will say that I had the right away. But if I had the chance to pull onto the shoulder and avoid the accident and didn’t do it, I’m a idiot...I’m a dead idiot who had the right away. You end up drunk in a frat house toga party dressed in a sheet chances are something bad is going to happen, but you had the right away.”
Good advice but the wording detracts from his point. What is “a lot of alcohol”? Some would say “no alcohol” which is clear, but if what he really means is “don’t drink excessively” then that’s what he should say.
Parents who allow their kids to drink with them when underage would be turned in as abusive parents by today’s standards, but there is logic in helping a kid learn the difference between “having a couple of drinks” and drinking so much they pass out. Many of us learned this the hard way.
I recall an incident years ago. Our club was holding a “slave auction” to raise money (I was one of the participants, offering lesions in crafts related to the group’s theme). One young girl appeared in a skimpy costume and performed a sexy dance; she was greeted enthusiastically, and won the highest bid, as I recall. Afterwards, she complained to me that she was unhappy with the way the male members of our club treated her, “they were only interested in one thing.” I was most unsympathetic, I fear, even cruel: I advised her “If you’re not selling it, don’t advertise.”
The Governor is right.
The same advice any father would give his daughter.
Not a Kasich fan, but I am with him on this.
“Parents who allow their kids to drink with them when underage would be turned in as abusive parents by today’s standards, ...”
In my state, it is legal for parents to serve alcohol to their “underage” children at home. We did this on a few occasions at dinner precisely to teach her that responsible consumption of alcohol can be part of being an adult, much like responsible driving.
Good advice.
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