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How Ted Cruz Got Indiana Wrong
Politico ^ | May 03, 2016 | Adam Wren

Posted on 05/03/2016 6:26:27 AM PDT by 20yearsofinternet

On a sunny day at the Oasis Diner in Plainfield, Indiana, roughly 20 miles west of Indianapolis, Ted Cruz breezed through a 1950s-era diner with a gleaming steel facade. One of the last diners of its kind, the Oasis sits along the Historic National Road, the iconic highway traversing the state that fancies itself the Crossroads of America. Here, four days before he named Carly Fiorina as his vice presidential pick, Cruz met a crowd of a few hundred supporters. He mugged for photos, noshed on a fried pickle offered to him by a customer, then shot straight behind the counter. Pleasantries aside, it was time to get down to the business at hand.

“Alright, can I get anyone some fill-ups?” he asked to no one in particular, grabbing a pot of coffee and holding it up, as a peal of laughter pierced the humid air inside the packed diner. “Refill of coffee for anyone?”

Everything seemed to be going well for Cruz, who gripped and grinned amid his biggest fans, wearing copious amounts of camouflage and Dale Earnhardt No. 88 hats and “Don’t Tread On Me” T-shirts. As he spoke from the back of a red Chevrolet pickup truck, one could even hear a few “Amens.”

But then it happened.

Outside the diner, in a gaggle with reporters, Cruz unloaded on North Carolina’s transgender bathroom law. “There is no greater evil than predators, and if the law says that any man, if he chooses can enter a women’s restroom, a little girl’s restroom and stay there and he cannot be removed because he simply says at that moment he feels like a woman, you’re opening the door for predators,” Cruz told reporters.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: New York; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Texas
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To: JerseyDvl

“Lying Ted hasn’t been corect about anything for quite some time.”

How do you figure that?


““There is no greater evil than predators, and if the law says that any man, if he chooses can enter a women’s restroom, a little girl’s restroom and stay there and he cannot be removed because he simply says at that moment he feels like a woman, you’re opening the door for predators,” Cruz told reporters.”


21 posted on 05/03/2016 7:13:02 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: 20yearsofinternet

what many Daniels Republicans here are thinking about Cruz: “He has a terrible message.”


22 posted on 05/03/2016 7:14:02 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Cboldt

Forgot the /s tag, or you’re serious? If you’re serious, then you’re holding out hope on one poll from a statewide polling firm within a university that hasn’t polled since 2011, was off by 30 points in their last poll and conducted this recent poll with a very small sample over two weeks? And a candidate’s comments who is possibly at the end of the line in his campaign and has not been based in reality over the last few weeks? As compared to five or six other polls from firms that do this for a living?


23 posted on 05/03/2016 7:15:12 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: ripnbang
You left out that Downs, the pollster, admitted the poll was probably wrong.

I was channeling Cruz, and in that mode, there is of course no /s tag.

24 posted on 05/03/2016 7:19:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: John W
So opposing transgender restroom rights derailed Ted in Indiana? Does anyone actually believe that?

Not by itself of course. He framed it as a moral issue. Trump framed it as a legal issue. Cruz will get some amens but Trump will get the votes.

25 posted on 05/03/2016 7:20:13 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Jay Thomas
I watched a video last night that documented the “protests” at Trump’s CA rally. It lasted one and a half hours. The yelling Mexicans and their waving the Mex flag everywhere is the issue of the moment. I saw the bloodied Trump supporters and the threatening behavior towards those leaving the rally.

If these invaders are not dealt with, the bathroom issue will not matter.

Be prepared to watch this entirely obvious, shriekingly self-evident point roundly and broadly missed by the diehard faithful.

None of which will actually make you even remotely wrong, mind you...

26 posted on 05/03/2016 7:21:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: DouglasKC

So, conservatism, including FR, had much of it’s roots in God and morality. What’s happened?


27 posted on 05/03/2016 7:22:47 AM PDT by John W (Under One Year And Counting!)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

I don’t think the article got this right. I don’t think it was Cruz’s bathroom position that went over badly. I think it was that he appeared desperate and petty in making a big issue of it and trying to bash Trump with it. Our country is being invaded, our jobs have been shipped overseas, we don’t seem to win wars anymore and Cruz was talking about something pretty tangential, especially when you consider that there is not now and never has been anything stopping cross-dressers from going in the other sex’s bathrooms (other than angry citizens). This is in kind with other signs of Cruz desperation such as the last minute pick of a v.p. (goofy for a guy getting trounced) and teaming up with liberal John Kasich...


28 posted on 05/03/2016 7:29:55 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Ransomed

I too have noticed that men are more upset about the bathroom issue than women.

Of course, most men’s natural instinct is to protect women.

Perhaps women have become so used to men looking out for their safety (I’m talking real safety issues) that they fail to do so themselves.

After all, most of the women’s safety issues pushed by the left (from campus rape to bullying to PC speech codes) amount to: protect women from normal, decent men.

When was the last time you heard a woman on the left speak out about protecting women from REAL threats?


29 posted on 05/03/2016 7:45:07 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Lying Ted & Outsourcing Carly, a losing combo.)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Not a Cruz fan but Politico preaching on how to be conservative is like Obama preaching on how to be Reagan.


30 posted on 05/03/2016 7:47:43 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Brookhaven

Great point. When Trump said he was cool with Bruce Jenner using any bathroom he wanted in his building I started to wonder about it. I maybe buy Target going social justice and damning the consequences, but I don’t think Trump would do that. He seems pretty legit as far as business savvy goes. He really must not think his women customers care enough about to hurt his business. That is a grim indication that we are much further along culturally than I thought we were, anyhow.

Freegards


31 posted on 05/03/2016 7:59:44 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Cboldt

Got it :)


32 posted on 05/03/2016 8:04:10 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: 20yearsofinternet; All
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33 posted on 05/03/2016 8:07:55 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 20yearsofinternet

I happen to agree with Ted Cruz about this. This idea of allowing men in women’s restrooms is a very bad one. I had a terrifying experience when I was young regarding this, and I am horrified that anyone would seriously consider this a good idea.

That being said, if a transgender (not a transvestite) discretely uses the women’s room, no one would even notice or care.


34 posted on 05/03/2016 8:08:11 AM PDT by erkelly
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To: John W

So opposing transgender restroom rights derailed Ted in Indiana? Does anyone actually believe that?


The writer is an idiot, obviously.

Cruz is undone by many things — right now, most importantly, the fact that his own role now is campaign-wrecker, not campaigner — but not the bathroom question.

The writer is a moron, obviously.


35 posted on 05/03/2016 8:11:56 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

If thinking that men should not be in women’s restrooms is now controversial, we are more lost than I realized.

This is the problem with politics. Politics must rest upon a moral foundation; without that, it doesn’t matter who you put in office. If your people and their leaders don’t know right from wrong, politics can’t save them.


36 posted on 05/03/2016 8:19:56 AM PDT by marron
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To: dforest

exactly


37 posted on 05/03/2016 8:27:19 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Because the states ought to be the place for this

Moreover I am not even sure that that will do. The Target boycott and stock sell off because of their new policy has much more effect.

Social conservatives have got to figure out a better way than politics to win the battle. You are supposed to be winning hearts and minds. That doesn’t go well when laws are passed.....mainly do to unintended consequences. For example, California passed overwhelmingly a ,marriage definition law. The law suits came rushing in and now thanks to SCOTUS that is the law of the land


38 posted on 05/03/2016 8:30:51 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: marron

We will see in a few months if Target is hurt by this. That will be a good indicator. I think it depends on if women care enough about it. If they don’t, then I agree, we are much farther along the downward slope than I realized.

Freegards


39 posted on 05/03/2016 8:31:40 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Brookhaven

“Cruz could have been where Trump is, IF he had focused on ITT from the get go. He didn’t.”

He had an issue with evasiveness on specifics early on, denying the whole “for legalization, no I’m not” business. He waited far too long to parrot Trumps clear hard line.


40 posted on 05/03/2016 8:35:32 AM PDT by moehoward
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