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Byron York: Heidi Cruz says 'Ted is an immigrant'
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/30/16 7:50 PM | Byron York

Posted on 04/30/2016 5:29:17 PM PDT by dynoman

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To: bigbob

>Bill Still explains it all:

Bill Still often full of crap. Take what he says with a lot of salt.


181 posted on 04/30/2016 7:41:44 PM PDT by RedWulf (Defeat Hillery or kiss the republic goodbye.)
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To: bigbob

>Bill Still explains it all:

Bill Still often full of crap. Take what he says with a lot of salt.


182 posted on 04/30/2016 7:42:39 PM PDT by RedWulf (Defeat Hillery or kiss the republic goodbye.)
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To: RedWulf

Well if his mom didn’t get the joke, I don’t think we should think it is.


183 posted on 04/30/2016 7:43:28 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Tau Food
I leave it to the Cubans to decide who is or is not a natural born citizen of Cuba.

The dictators there probably aren't concerned with such concepts anyway. They took and keep power using raw armed power.

184 posted on 04/30/2016 7:44:17 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: CyberAnt
Go use a search engine and look to see if any new Bills or Laws have been passed to update what a NBC is, since 2005. Personally, I don't know of any.

In 2005, our government handed out study guides to all of those studying to become a NATURALIZED CITIZEN. In that booklet, it informed all of those people ( and probably still do ), which clearly states that a NBC MUST BE BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL TO TWO AMERICAN CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF THE CHILD'S BIRTH !

185 posted on 04/30/2016 7:46:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Karl Spooner
>Well if his mom didn’t get the joke, I don’t think we should think it is.

Ted's an Aspie, and Aspie’s often make jokes that no one gets. Don't be to hard on him for it.

186 posted on 04/30/2016 7:46:32 PM PDT by RedWulf (Defeat Hillery or kiss the republic goodbye.)
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To: JayGalt
Natural born citizen at the time of the founding of the United States was universally understood to be the child of that is why it is not further defined.

I will begin and end by applying some common sense to that sentence. I do not believe that there existed any universal understanding of term "natural born citizen" at the time of our founding. I doubt that there were 100 people alive at that time who even thought about the meaning of that term at that time.

When our Constitution was debated and drafted, there was great doubt about whether we should even amend the Articles of Confederation. There were huge differences in this country concerning issues such ass slavery and the need for a strong or weak central government. If we were to adopt a Constitution and entrust a federal government with enhanced powers, how were we going to protect small states from being abused by larger states. How should powers be separated within a central government? How should a central government be financed?

These were huge issues. Our nation debated all of thee big issues, but no one had time or energy to talk about the meaning to be given "natural born citizen." It just wasn't considered important. They drafted a term that would serve to prevent some stranger to wander over and become president of the United States, but there weren't more than a handful of people who had ever heard of a dead Swiss philosopher named Vattel.

We all understand the reason for age requirement (35). We all understand the reason for the residency requirement. We wanted our presidents to be someone who had clearly identified himself as American by birth and by personal background. And, we have never elected anyone who wasn't in every real sense of the word an American. I think that the natural construction - born an American citizen - is wholly adequate for the purpose of the provision. Everything else is just baloney.

But, that is just my view. If you wish to imagine that the entire country was obsessed with Vattel and his European views of citizenship, then you have that right. I think that view is crazy. I think that the vast majority of people at the time of the founding had never heard of Vattel or of any of his strange theories.

But, there is a requirement that each of our presidents be a "natural born citizen." So, as voters I think we need to apply that standard to our choices when voting.

And, that's what I do.

187 posted on 04/30/2016 7:48:28 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: RedWulf

You sound like a mind reader. I don’t believe in them.


188 posted on 04/30/2016 7:48:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
Because you are the one who stated it as fact by saying the following:

"Neither parent was a citizen of the US at the time of his birth."

I only want to know where you got your information.

189 posted on 04/30/2016 7:48:36 PM PDT by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: Tau Food
So does the VEEP and Teddy is NOT a NBC!

Neither is Rubio, Jindahl, nor Haley!

190 posted on 04/30/2016 7:49:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: G Larry

“Trump’s lifetime of consistency on ANY issue?”

LOLOL!!

Uncut Donald Trump. 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuDT42wNa18


191 posted on 04/30/2016 7:49:50 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
it was common knowledge until the communists took over in the 60s.

When I took Civics in 61, they still taught the meaning of NBC.

192 posted on 04/30/2016 7:49:53 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: dynoman

One of the irrationalities in American law that may crumble one Tuesday morning when people wake up and realize it’s crazy is the “sealing” of American birth records.

Lord Monckton has pointed out that ANYBODY can go to the place where his birth certificate is kept and pay a fee covering the cost of making a copy, and take a copy with him.

And the sky doesn’t fall.


193 posted on 04/30/2016 7:50:17 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: M1911A1

Post of the day


194 posted on 04/30/2016 7:50:28 PM PDT by indcons (Lurker mode mostly)
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To: RedWulf
What "race" is an immigrant or an "HISPANIC" ?

There are "HISPANICS" who are white, blacks, Asian mixed, Amerinds.

195 posted on 04/30/2016 7:51:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texas Yellow Rose

It should be simple to prove that he was. Show me the documents. Like I said, the burden of proof is on him.


196 posted on 04/30/2016 7:51:32 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Tau Food

Tau, Congress has tried to amend the Constitution over a dozen times during my lifetime to include foreign borns as NBC making them eligible for potus. The bills never go anywhere.

Globalist keep trying to dilute the office of the presidency. Ted is ineligible and if the RNC would be fool enough to select him as nominee it will make the DNC’s job laughingly simple.

There are close to 20 bills sitting in various state legislative houses known as “ballot-access bills.” For the General Election, candidates for potus & vpotus need to produce to the Secretary of State an original BC from America in order to be placed on the ballot. This summer, just one dem controlled state legislature would need to pass a ballot access bill. BINGO, Ted’s out of luck and so are we.

Texas has a ballot access bill, HB 295, wonder why they sat on it./s

“Texas legislators are already introducing bills for the 2011 legislative session. Representative Leo Berman recently introduced HB 295, which says that no presidential or vice-presidential candidate may be listed on the November ballot unless he or she has presented an “original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen.”

Note: Berman had 23 co-sponsors for the HB 295, all republicans.


197 posted on 04/30/2016 7:52:13 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: dynoman

Uh....was there one of these you’d like to refute?

Abortion?
Partial Birth Abortion?
Tax the Rich?
Touchback Amnesty?
Tranny bathrooms?
Single Payer Healthcare?


198 posted on 04/30/2016 7:52:51 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: nopardons

I think if you read our posts, you won’t find me telling you what you should do or how you should interpret the Constitution. I respect your right to have your views. I don’t ask that you respect my views in return. I don’t have any need for your permission for me to think for myself. If you don’t think that you’re okay, then maybe you should try to figure out why. I think you’re okay.


199 posted on 04/30/2016 7:55:04 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: G Larry

“Partial Birth Abortion?”

Trump’s supported a partial birth abortion ban since 2000, That is way more years than months Ted hasn’t been a Canadian citizen!! LOL!!

BTW Trump is at 1004 delegates now.


200 posted on 04/30/2016 7:55:42 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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