Posted on 04/29/2016 8:01:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
RE: It’s a great reason. Cruz can’t win with the voters, so he wins with the “#NEVERTRUMP” GOP slime. He’s using a rigged system and he brags about it.
Again, my issue with you is NOT whether or not Trump will win or whether or not Cruz will lose. Those are not the arguments I have with you and whether voters want Cruz or not is beside the point.
My issue is the accusation that Cruz cheated ( regardless of whether or not he will be the nominee. He DID NOT ).
RE: He’s using a rigged system and he brags about it.
Let’s say some other candidate used the same system that Colorado already had in place and won, a system that was MADE KNOWN TO EVERYONE BEFORE THE PRIMARIES BEGAN, how is that candidate cheating?
it is cheating only if:
1) The rules were hidden and not made known.
2) The rules were changed in the middle of the game
Since they were not, and Cruz played by the known rules, there’s no cheating.
>2) The rules were changed in the middle of the game
They canceled the presidential poll. The rules where changed in the middle of the primary once it became clear that Trump might win. The “#NEVERTRUMP”’s rigged it and Cruz had no problem becoming joined at the hip with a corrupt system.
you are wasting your time with them
I’m surprised they haven’t called you names
Good catch Senator Cruz!
Don’t give up. My intent is to save FR and preserve it’s value by confronting every bs gossip point (2 Timothy 4:3 comes to mind). We have too many itchy ears here. Jim is unable to handle this himself, so if I encourage one person and you encourage one person, then we will shine the light on this darkness. If not, I have better things to do than to listen to morons.
I beg to differ! Gaffer, i am not a Trump hater or a Cruz supporter. I do value what little integrit that is left on this forum and will shine a light on every negative bs that is deposited here. That is whether it is a Trump supporter or a Cruz supporter. In fact, if you do the same, we will help return FR to its valuable place.
RE: They canceled the presidential poll. The rules where changed in the middle of the primary once it became clear that Trump might win.
From 1912 to 1988, and since 2004, Colorado used the current system for delegate selection, with no preference vote binding.
Even in 1992, 1996, and 2004 delegates were bound by vote, but were free to vote conscience on second ballot.
In 2012, Santorum won the non-binding straw poll but Romney received more delegates at conventions.
A 2012 rules change at the RNC required any state that held a straw poll to bind their delegates, Colorado chose not to hold the straw poll, to enhance grass-roots participation.
The party rules that allowed Ted Cruz to sweep Colorado’s Republican delegates without a popular vote are perfectly legitimate and designed to curb “mob rule” — despite Donald Trump’s howls of protest.
We’re a representative republic, not a democracy, and the reason the Founders made it like that was to guard against mob rule…. I can understand why people would think it is counter intuitive to one-man, one-vote — but everybody’s had this access to the same information, the same rules.
Colorado Republicans canceled their presidential caucus last August and instead picked 37 delegates at the state convention. THAT WAS LONG BEFORE TRUMP became any one’s leading candidate.
Again, if your beef is with the Colorado process, blame Colorado, not Cruz. It is NOT Cruz’s job to change the Colorado rules, it is for Colorado to do it.
Cruz learned the rules and worked WITHIN the rules. That’s not cheating.
The Nomination process for Colorado was known for a year + beyond. It’s the responsibility of the campaigns to understand it. Complaints only when you fail to contest by the known rules? Give me a break.
RE: you are wasting your time with them
I’m surprised they haven’t called you names
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I don’t consider it wasting time. I consider it documenting what’s going on. I have plenty of time and bytes to continue ... :)
True.
> to enhance grass-roots participation.
HAHAHAHAHAH, you really believe that? They wanted to make sure only the party bosses could choose which is what they achieved.
Perhaps wishful thinking on your part?
But you fail to address the gope. I recall them working against Goldwater. Actively.
What state do you see Cruz winning in addition to those Romney carried?
By the way .... I don’t recall Romney winning.
“Colorado Republicans changed the rules last August” sic
Thank you
Cheating has different definitions, not just Rush’s opinion.
RE: HAHAHAHAHAH, you really believe that? They wanted to make sure only the party bosses could choose which is what they achieved.
And explain to me how it is Cruz’s fault again that Colorado used their delegate selection process the way they did?
Maybe you can show me that Ted Cruz was involved in setting the rules... if not, then how can Ted Cruz be cheating when all he did was follow the rules already set it place?
RE: Thank you
Cheating has different definitions, not just Rush’s opinion.
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Well, you are welcome. But so what? The time to complain about the rule change was August, not almost a year later.
And you cannot blame a candidate for working within the rules that he had nothing to do with. Therefore, it is not Cruz who is cheating.
RE: Thank you
Cheating has different definitions, not just Rush’s opinion.
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Well, you are welcome. But so what? The time to complain about the rule change was August, not almost a year later.
And you cannot blame a candidate for working within the rules that he had nothing to do with. Therefore, it is not Cruz who is cheating.
Well played, CRuz!
Now let’s not split hairs.
As I said cheating has several definitions.
Would an honorable man take advantage of a rigged situation?
You decide
The establishment does all it can to maintain control and limit challenges to their control.
IS someone who goes along with that complicient ?
Well, I have too many things on my plate now; having to babysit a bunch of juvenile idiots is just not in my playbook. You’re right, they’re morons.
Trump WOULD recognize it.
The danger would be Donald kicking his teeth in and signing his forehead with a sharpened fountain pen.
That is the Donald I support by the way!
America disagrees.
Ted is dishonest.
This is why he is crashing now.
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