Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.
If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.
Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.
I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children. God will handle the children as He sees fit. It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children. It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.
One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference. Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others. We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system. This discussion is saved for another time. But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.
Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg. Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders. This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.
This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.
The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.
His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.
[ … ]
Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.
Jonah is right. He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains. He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly. His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.
Not to worry, though. Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way. Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here. Trump is the topic. He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.
And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore. Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives? It still is.
And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.
Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil. And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.
I am certainly not a John Beohner fan but doesn’t mean he’s not right about this one ..........
“I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/john-beohner-ted-cruz-lucifer-222570
You have to be able to work with people. Ted may have a problem here.
John 15:13King James Version (KJV) 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
kum buy yah. They knew the rules. They chose poorly.
+1 from me to.
I made more money during five years of Obama regime than in any other twenty years of my life.
I would trade that for having had a conservative in office.
It isn't just about making money.
Romney was a businessman
Thanks, FRiend.
“I am certainly not a John Beohner fan but doesn’t mean he’s not right about this one ..........”
Absolutely! I just imagine that Cruz’ parents got notes sent home when he was in grade school saying “doesn’t work well with others.” And I guess they didn’t get him any help with his problem. As for Boner, a stopped clock is right twice a day!
That statement blew your entire argument, those people are either uninformed or they're liars.
I've seen no one banned for stating that, I have seen people banned for stating they'd vote for Hillary or the Rat nominee if Trump is the Repub nominee. That is a whole nuther thing and you've been here long enough to know that.
Good luck and hopefully you won't be voting for the Rat.
“I’m sorry, but I WILL not vote for trump. And I’m REALLY sorry if I lose your friendship because of it. “
If Trump becomes president and does a great job, I hope you are equally as passionate to render an apology just the same.
Cruz has been treated with kid gloves compared to Trump, even here at FR.
Sadly, I agree with you.
And I think that dissapointment will begin with Madame president's inauguration-Given that people were willing to stay home and give Obama control of our country again- for another 4 years, because they were upset at Mitt Romney-(who had negatives nowhere near as high as Trump's).
Thanks for posting this jpsb. Bookmarking the disgusting posts from media.
>> People of goodwill can agree to disagree <<
Depends on what the meaning of “can” is?
(Anyway, I don’t see much evidence around here to support your apparent belief.)
The wall, stopping illegals.
Preventing muzzies from immigration until this war is done (at least).
Undoing Obamacare.
Returning to a pro business attitude.
Stopping the lurch towards socialism.
3 or 4 Supreme Court nominations.
And lots more. But why try with some of you people?
Other than that, like you Cruzers say.....What's the difference?
Might I say, as a former Cruz supporter, I find the Cruzers to honestly be more delusional than I thought possible.
austingirl
Hero Member
**** Posts: 43
Cruz 2016- a Constitutional Conservative at last!
Re: Once a Great Notion – The Rise and Fall of Jim Robinson’s Free Republic
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2016, 11:58:53 AM »
FR is now run by the tactics of the left-I will never return. Was on the site since the 2000 election. Like this much better. ^-^
And this shows you could care less about your fellow Americans who are struggling and hurting financially. smokin’ joe says “I gots mine, and eff you all while I keep you down.” Way to go smokin’ joe, way to go.
Would you sacrifice your principles to retain your friends (not save their lives, but continue to be their friend)?
It is not hard to answer.
THANKS! And the RNC wonders why I told them to Go to Hell the other day when they called!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.