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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
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To: RedWulf

This is the distortion that began my disillusionment with Cruz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VsxiReCPQ


321 posted on 04/28/2016 4:09:42 AM PDT by kanawa (Being an insider in a fight with other insiders does not make you an outsider.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Ted Cruz: “I am the king of voterless states!”™


322 posted on 04/28/2016 4:18:52 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hi Neil,

I’m truly sorry you feel that way, because much of what you wrote about Trump is simply untrue. It’s all speculation at best. You have created a straw man, and like Don Quixote, are tilting at a windmill you think is an evil knight.

Unlike others here, I respect your decision, but reckon it decided on incorrect facts.


323 posted on 04/28/2016 4:19:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Neil E. Wright
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.

I don't think Trump will sign into law any anti 2nd Amendment legislation, and he will at least make an honest attempt at doing something about the immigration mess. With these two items, I already KNOW where Hillary stands. I cannot allow Hillary to make decisions about those two core issues that are of utmost importance to me. So yes, I agree. It is about my future, my kid's future, my grand kids future, and the future of our Republic. In this, I will gladly vote Trump. I would have done the same for Cruz, but he didn't win.

324 posted on 04/28/2016 4:21:24 AM PDT by corlorde
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To: Neil E. Wright

Folks like you, gave us four more years of Obama! Now, you’re wanting to give us Hillary?


325 posted on 04/28/2016 4:21:51 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: cornfedcowboy

Whether or not you choose to believe or disbelieve a Canadian citizen born in Canada can ever qualify as a natural born citizen who is eligible to serve as President of the United States, it raises the question of how you could ever hope to avoid the ensuing controversy that would make it not feasible to win a General Election with that controversy remaining unresolved for a large number of voters?


326 posted on 04/28/2016 4:26:35 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Neil E. Wright

The biggest downside for Trump is if he wins and cannot deliver on his promises. There will be millions of opponents, enemies foreign and enemies domestic, to thwart his intentions. The GOPe party alone can throw up roadblocks all along the way. Their Uniparty cohorts, the ‘rats and their domestic collectives, can do much damage. The enemies foreign, international elite and foreign invaders, can cause damage all over the country. Trump’s promises, even if elected, are not a given.

I support Trump, as he offers solutions or a change of direction to multiple challenges internal and external to the republic. He puts HIS money where his mouth is. He has not asked for anything but our vote.

If he loses the election he walks away completely intact saying it was a corrupt system or the people have spoken and did not want to “Make America Great Again”. The biggest loss could come if he wins. His exposure, then becomes exponential. There are a lot of losers/looters/collectivists around the world who hate individuals/winners/America and are willing to take, destroy or kill everything they can and anyone who gets in their way.


327 posted on 04/28/2016 4:31:27 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hey Neil next time post all the lies the GOPe and thier little bots have poored on our hoping ears.

And all the socialist programs they have voted for and support.

And list all the conservatives who support Trd sCruz other women.


328 posted on 04/28/2016 4:43:45 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hissy fit.

Yawn.


329 posted on 04/28/2016 4:48:09 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Neil E. Wright

mr. right, if you tell me to “open wide and suck it down,” you had better be a safe distance away from me.

Glad to see your sore loser self gone. But, could you do one more thing? Could you actually leave?


330 posted on 04/28/2016 4:49:07 AM PDT by anton
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I was a Cruz supporter at first, then when Trump entered the race I reevaluated my choice. On FB from day one Cruz supporters called Trump names and those who support him.

The Cruz campaign started the whole wife attack issue with Beck attacking Trumps wife on the air saying she was in lesbian porno shoots.

I lost all respect for Cruz the very day he paraded Beck out in public. Beck is nuts.


331 posted on 04/28/2016 4:51:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Dear Neal

Bite me.

Now man up and leave I still see your About You page.


332 posted on 04/28/2016 5:02:03 AM PDT by Gasshog (CruZ is Romney's spork weasel sock puppet)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Damn...... you don’t get it

the normal conservative agenda has been superseded to solve the immediate existential problems

there is no conservative running that can win the general election. Cruz is the zealot mirror image of Obama. America will not have another zealot.

You have declared your self to be irrelevant, political detritus at the tide line


333 posted on 04/28/2016 5:04:42 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: PhilDragoo

Awesome, Phil, just awesome!


334 posted on 04/28/2016 5:17:57 AM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: Neil E. Wright

Sorry to hear you are taking your leave. Even as you signal your reasons (all pretty sensible) you are attacked. It is getting worse than liberals disagreeing with one another to bring their herd into line. Even now you are attacked with a great deal of venom.

While I’ll vote for Trump I won’t attack you personally as I’d wish for you to stay that WAS the beauty with this site, civilized discourse. Not anymore, something has changed and it isn’t the blah blah save the republic (evangelicals have been screaming the rapture has been coming for centuries) it’s something I have yet to figure out. I don’t agree with the article entirely but it does certainly raise a brow.

Thank you for sharing and good luck


335 posted on 04/28/2016 5:18:47 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Both are miles ahead of Romney or McCain

We all belive what we want to believe. I believe I would be just as opposed to Trump if he was only running against Romney and McCain.

We can force Mexico and China to build our mausoleum while we choke on abortion, sodomy and socialist statism.

336 posted on 04/28/2016 5:25:27 AM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Randy Larsen

I am contributing because I care. If you read my posts you would know I support anyone’s right to their opinion whether it agrees with mine or not. That is freedom.

Kindly refrain from calling me an idiot. You should be ashamed of yourself. Matthew 5:22.

Personally I could care less who you vote for if you only vote once.


337 posted on 04/28/2016 5:27:38 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: onyx; PhilDragoo
Oh My Goodness PhilDragoo! What a Great Graphic thank you!

And Thank YOU for the ping Onyx! (HUGS!)

338 posted on 04/28/2016 5:28:17 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Everyone Does Know that after the Last Brokered Republican Convention, They Lost, Right?)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Being that you are a long time Freeper (11 days longer than me), I will try not to be too harsh. But I'm disappointed in your anti-Trump missive (bordering on opus).

I'm an ardent Trump supporter almost to the day he got into the race last June. However, had the primary season turned out differently and Ted Cruz was the presumptive nominee, I would not be bitter and I would certainly not be putting up such a post and crapping on my nominee. Instead, I would have sucked it up and would have gotten behind Ted Cruz, just like I have for every Republican nominee since I can remember.

But Ted Cruz did not get the job done. He has only won three primaries - his home state of Texas, Wisconsin and I believe Idaho. All his other victories have been in caucus states where political insiders and party hacks control the process. Ted Cruz got shut out in the Deep South and has been absolutely crushed in the Northeast, crushed so badly that he finished distant third to John Kasich in a number of states.

Regardless of his conservative bona fides, do we really want to make him our nominee only to see him lose in a landslide to Clinton?

The reason we have a primary process is to vet candidates and assess their electability in the general election. If Cruz showed us that he could win, I'd be behind him. Ted Cruz's weak showing in the primaries has not shown us that he can win a general election. His nomination will virtually guarantee a victory for Clinton and we cannot afford that.

Ted Cruz is not charismatic. He does not seem to have a plan other than telling us that he's the one that can "beat Donald Trump", but other than a handful of states, he has not shown us that. Besides, what we really need is somebody that can beat Shrillary in November. Somebody that can win Independents and blue-collar Democrats like Ronald Reagan did in his two landslides. News Flash: The choice of Carly Fiorina did not help with Independents and blue-collar Democrats. I've done the math. Even if 100% of registered Republicans vote the ticket in November, we still lose. We must win over Independents and blue-collar (Reagan) Democrats.

To that point, the only reason Cruz is even where he is today is due to Donald Trump. If not for Trump jumping into the race, we'd be looking at presumptive nominee Jeb Bush. No doubt about it. That was the original GOP plan and he had all the money and establishment backing behind him.

Ted Cruz is only 44 years old and he had a bright future ahead of him. His best bet would have been to drop out of the race when it became clear he could not win fair and square and get behind Donald Trump. Maybe he could have been Trump's VP or be in some other high-level position that would set himself up nicely for future presidential runs. But he appears to have leagued himself with the establishment and the "Stop Trump" movement and has blown up the bridges behind him. He now must live with the consequences of his decisions.

Finally with regard to Trump "not being a true conservative", I'm simply going to refer back to the multiple posts made the founder of this fine site who has listed out all the conservative positions that Donald Trump has taken during this campaign - and there are many.

Will he actually follow through on these promises when he wins? I would love to find out. Trump has a record of achievement in the private sector that is very impressive and he has surrounded himself (in his businesses) with high quality people. If he does the same as president, I think we are all in for a very pleasant surprise.

One thing for sure, the lawyer-politicians we have been electing the past few decades have done great harm to this nation. I'm willing to take my chances with a successful businessman.

339 posted on 04/28/2016 5:28:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Cruz and Kasich are in COLLUSION with the establishment GOP - cannot be trusted!)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Our manufacturing trade deficit with the world is now approaching $1 trillion a year. We’re rebuilding other countries while weakening our own.

That is the key point above all others . And the manufacturing trade deficit with china is at least 500 billion dollars.China has perpetrated the biggest theft in history by stealing all our factories = production capability of merchandise = wealth creation = wealth.Trump will stop China and TPP . We have rebuilt china while the USA withers away. Only Trump understands the problem and how to stop China. not anymore not 1 single product made in china not 1 imported from China not 1 single dollar to china

Manufacturing = production = wealth creation. mass production with automation is the best way to increase production of items and so to create wealth , far above all others . We could have many factories in the USA that produce that 1 trillion dollars of merchandise we import from other countries, mainly China , steel mills,machine tools factories,computer chip factories, etc.

Manufacturing = production = wealth creation. Manufacturing = the industrial revolution before that there was no industry without industry there is no civilization no cities, only farms and the stone age.

Imagine if you put a huge city sized steel mill in the middle of a desert in Texas. then you put a machine tools factory right next to it . then a chip making factory. then a plastics plant. How many people and different kinds of other businesses will go there? accountants, electricians, managers, machine operators, custodians, mechanical engineers, construction workers,computer programmers, process engineers, electrical engineers,
electronics techs, electricians, automation specialists,
caterers and a million other kinds of jobs will sprout out of these. and all of these take their salary and spend it out in the city to create retail jobs, banking jobs etc.

340 posted on 04/28/2016 5:30:10 AM PDT by Democrat_media ( Only Trump will stop TPP and China and the sociialist illegals' invasion of the USA w Wall!)
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