Posted on 04/20/2016 5:23:54 AM PDT by markomalley
t has already become clear that the campaign to keep Britain in Europe is fundamentally a negative one. As George Osborne’s Brexit dossier confirmed this week, the focus is all about the costs of leaving, not the potential benefits of staying.
There are several reasons for this, but chief among them is that uncertainty over Britain’s place in Europe after June 23 cuts both ways.
If we leave, no one knows what "out" looks like - choose from a smorgasbord of Norwegian, Swiss-Canadian and WTO trade arrangements - but if the UK stays, it is equally uncertain how Britain will fare long term as the eurozone countries look to integrate further.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Is it better to let unaccountable bureaucrats/totalitarians run/ruin your life, or are you better off running your own life and being responsible for your own decisions?
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
I watched a forum over the weekend, where one European said that the election over BREXIT will be a no-exit win by less three points....to which he noted....this simply builds the scenario for another vote within four years. None of this will really end anything.
It’s like the Scotland exit business....it’s not really over...it’s simply laying there for another round when developments come along to make it popular.
The idea of a United States of Europe was a dumb one. Each country has its culture and language. Trying to force them into a melting pot has failed, just as it has failed in this country.
Europe cannot reform. Neither can the USA now. The Agencies would have to be eliminated, not scaled back but eliminated for any reform beyond the cosmetic and temporary to occur. That is why it would take a dictator to accomplish it. We do now have an elective dictator system of government but it requires the right dictator, a selfless idealist. Unfortunately selfless idealism tends almost completely to run in the Communist and Islamist directions. We need aclear eyed determined reformer Napoleon. Trump could be that Napoleon- no other in the pack can. But he will probably turn out to be a traditional Napoleon. Even the best, when given total power, cannot resist trying to make everything perfect in outcome which would make him Mussolini or Stalin in effect.
At this point it would be best to dissolve the European Union. It has become to entangled to be reformed. Once it started micromanaging local affairs, it’s been downhill and its eventual undoing.
Interesting post in an interesting thread. Thanks.
The most important question that was ever proposed to your decision, or to the decision of any people under heaven, is before you, and you are to decide upon it by men of your own election, chosen specially for this purpose. If the constitution, offered to your acceptance, be a wise one, calculated to preserve the invaluable blessings of liberty, to secure the inestimable rights of mankind, and promote human happiness, then, if you accept it, you will lay a lasting foundation of happiness for millions yet unborn; generations to come will rise up and call you blessed. You may rejoice in the prospects of this vast extended continent becoming filled with freemen, who will assert the dignity of human nature. You may solace yourselves with the idea, that society, in this favoured land, will fast advance to the highest point of perfection; the human mind will expand in knowledge and virtue, and the golden age be, in some measure, realised. But if, on the other hand, this form of government contains principles that will lead to the subversion of liberty — if it tends to establish a despotism, or, what is worse, a tyrannic aristocracy; then, if you adopt it, this only remaining assylum for liberty will be shut up, and posterity will execrate your memory.
Momentous then is the question you have to determine, and you are called upon by every motive which should influence a noble and virtuous mind, to examine it well, and to make up a wise judgment. It is insisted, indeed, that this constitution must be received, be it ever so imperfect. If it has its defects, it is said, they can be best amended when they are experienced. But remember, when the people once part with power, they can seldom or never resume it again but by force. Many instances can be produced in which the people have voluntarily increased the powers of their rulers; but few, if any, in which rulers have willingly abridged their authority. This is a sufficient reason to induce you to be careful, in the first instance, how you deposit the powers of government.
So far therefore as its powers reach, all ideas of confederation are given up and lost. It is true this government is limited to certain objects, or to speak more properly, some small degree of power is still left to the states, but a little attention to the powers vested in the general government, will convince every candid man, that if it is capable of being executed, all that is reserved for the individual states must very soon be annihilated, except so far as they are barely necessary to the organization of the general government. The powers of the general legislature extend to every case that is of the least importance — there is nothing valuable to human nature, nothing dear to freemen, but what is within its power. It has authority to make laws which will affect the lives, the liberty, and property of every man in the United States; nor can the constitution or laws of any state, in any way prevent or impede the full and complete execution of every power given. The legislative power is competent to lay taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; — there is no limitation to this power…
And are by this clause invested with the power of making all laws, proper and necessary, for carrying all these into execution; and they may so exercise this power as entirely to annihilate all the state governments, and reduce this country to one single government. And if they may do it, it is pretty certain they will; for it will be found that the power retained by individual states, small as it is, will be a clog upon the wheels of the government of the United States; the latter therefore will be naturally inclined to remove it out of the way. Besides, it is a truth confirmed by the unerring experience of ages, that every man, and every body of men, invested with power, are ever disposed to increase it, and to acquire a superiority over every thing that stands in their way. This disposition, which is implanted in human nature, will operate in the federal legislature to lessen and ultimately to subvert the state authority, and having such advantages, will most certainly succeed, if the federal government succeeds at all.
In a free republic…
Brutus #1 - Anti-federalist
Europe needs Britain more than Britain needs Europe. Europe would try to punish Britain for a while, but I don’t think that would last.
It was working ok when their biggest problem was Polish immigrants then the masters of the universe in Brussels opened the doors to Islam and hell followed with it.
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